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Post by th24 on Feb 15, 2018 18:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by MTS on Feb 15, 2018 20:03:42 GMT -5
The left is no longer liberal.
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 2, 2018 17:15:45 GMT -5
The left is no longer liberal. In all fairness to “liberals” they are not classic liberals for sure, but they are not lefties. That’s a different animal. Most classic liberals are your modern day libertarian. Listen to the Rubin report on you tube. He’s another guy who took the red pill and has found out that he’s not a liberal in modern sense. I think most liberals are just stunted somehow. Some figure it out eventually, some don’t.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 19:58:21 GMT -5
The left is no longer liberal. In all fairness to “liberals” they are not classic liberals for sure, but they are not lefties. That’s a different animal. Most classic liberals are your modern day libertarian. Listen to the Rubin report on you tube. He’s another guy who took the red pill and has found out that he’s not a liberal in modern sense. I think most liberals are just stunted somehow. Some figure it out eventually, some don’t. Not picking on you Rat but your post seems to me to identify the major problem that exists today when trying to get anything done in our Government. We are too quick to label people and lumping all of their ideas, often without consideration, into one neat little pile. We used to actually listen to each idea on its own merits and weigh in with our pluses and minuses. Now it's "Look at the label and accept/reject without any further mental effort" - hard to believe that all liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans are in total lock step, within each labeled group, with every major issue, let alone the nuances present in each.
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 2, 2018 20:08:38 GMT -5
In all fairness to “liberals” they are not classic liberals for sure, but they are not lefties. That’s a different animal. Most classic liberals are your modern day libertarian. Listen to the Rubin report on you tube. He’s another guy who took the red pill and has found out that he’s not a liberal in modern sense. I think most liberals are just stunted somehow. Some figure it out eventually, some don’t. Not picking on you Rat but your post seems to me to identify the major problem that exists today when trying to get anything done in our Government. We are too quick to label people and lumping all of their ideas, often without consideration, into one neat little pile. We used to actually listen to each idea on its own merits and weigh in with our pluses and minuses. Now it's "Look at the label and accept/reject without any further mental effort" - hard to believe that all liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans are in total lock step, within each labeled group, with every major issue, let alone the nuances present in each. I do agree with some of what you said and it’s why I’m not registered with any party. My point which initially was that liberals are not lefties, was actually in defense of liberals. Lefties are fascists, liberals are not fascists. Not a fan of liberals, but I know a lot of liberals that have the same views as I do regarding free speech.
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Post by th24 on Mar 3, 2018 19:25:33 GMT -5
Guy Benson is one of the better journalists to follow on Facebook or Twitter! While he is conservative- he will have rant about Trump, Republicans and Democrats. He will often debate liberals on college campuses. I highly recommend the Siena College Republicans invite him!
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Post by nolesaint on Mar 4, 2018 7:06:21 GMT -5
Guy Benson is one of the better journalists to follow on Facebook or Twitter! While he is conservative- he will have rant about Trump, Republicans and Democrats. He will often debate liberals on college campuses. I highly recommend the Siena College Republicans invite him! I have always appreciated reporters and thought leaders who truly discuss issues based upon their merits rather than party affiliation. Unfortunately, the vast majority of American have been brainwashed to think it is all or nothing. Meaning if you're a Rep or Dem EVERYTHING the other side does is to be opposed because they are bad people, can't possibly have a good idea, and so on... IMO the truth is we all agree on far more than most realize but unfortunately those on the fringe have dictated the conversations for far too long.
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Post by th24 on Mar 4, 2018 8:59:07 GMT -5
“Wonder why Fake News resonates so much with Trump fans? Because so much of it is fake. Just nonsense made to keep you perpetually offended with an endless stream of ‘controversies’ that aren’t controversial. Because places like the Huffington Post and BuzzFeed and Salon, they make their money by how many clicks they get. Yes, the people who see themselves as morally superior are actually ignoring their sacred job of informing citizens of what’s important and instead sowing division for their own selfish ends,” -Bill Maher
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Post by th24 on Apr 6, 2018 18:10:28 GMT -5
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Post by indian82 on Apr 6, 2018 19:41:10 GMT -5
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