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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 4, 2018 14:13:12 GMT -5
Was going to post something about Evan after the game on Monday but I never got around to it as things kind of blew up on here, but I just want to say how proud I am of him and what he’s done this season.
So many of us (including myself) tore him apart all of last season and this offseason. Said he wasn’t a D1 player. Said he should never shoot a 3. Said it was incomprehensible that he ever played. Groaned every time he checked in. And when you watched him in 2016-17, that was a fair conclusion. Evan could have transferred and had several D2 scholarship offers. Gotten a degree, never gotten criticized for his play, and been happy. But he didn’t take the easy way out.
He lost the weight and got quick enough so that he was a much more useful player on both ends of the floor. Became the vocal leader of a team that had no seniors and was desperate for someone to step up in that regard. Reinvented his game to be a more complete player, not just a shooter.
Now he’s averaging 6 points, 5 rebounds, and 1 block in 25 minutes per game. Those are really solid numbers. He’s far from perfect on the floor, but he’s become a useful rotation player and a heck of a leader.
Last game felt like the accumulation of all that work. Instead of running around the perimeter, he played pick and pop and went down in the post to do work too. Had that great scooping And-1 layup. Had 2 blocks, where he continues to impress me.
So whatever happens the rest of the way this season and for the rest of his career, I’ll have a big appreciation for Evan and the work he has done to become a useful player after he was written off by so many.
Thanks Evan.
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Post by sienafan1480 on Jan 4, 2018 14:36:01 GMT -5
I agree. No one has been outside of JP has been a bigger object of criticism here. He has really shown improvement this year. Hoping he continues to play solidly as the year goes on.
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Post by $cott on Jan 4, 2018 14:54:57 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of 2018 Evan so far, 2017 Evan was pretty terrible though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 15:00:13 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of 2018 Evan so far, 2017 Evan was pretty terrible though. I prefer to evaluate last year as he wasn't being used properly - put in positions to fail
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Post by mjs72 on Jan 4, 2018 15:40:08 GMT -5
He was on Wyland's show this week with AC Manning. Evan is an impressive young man.
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Post by olddave on Jan 4, 2018 15:43:36 GMT -5
Personally glad to see the young man making headway, making himself better. No way current coach is helping in that way, not with his history. Nice to see someone that age maturing and striving to make themselves better
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 4, 2018 15:48:59 GMT -5
Personally glad to see the young man making headway, making himself better. No way current coach is helping in that way, not with his history. Nice to see someone that age maturing and striving to make themselves better I’m sorry, but it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that the coaching and strength staff couldn’t have helped him. That’s the spot we’re in with this board... anyone who improves did it completely on their own, anyone who doesn’t its the coaching staff’s fault. That’s insane. It’s a 2-way street. Kids have to want to work, coaches have to put them in positions to succeed and improve.
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Post by greenblood on Jan 4, 2018 16:21:41 GMT -5
Personally glad to see the young man making headway, making himself better. No way current coach is helping in that way, not with his history. Nice to see someone that age maturing and striving to make themselves better I’m sorry, but it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that the coaching and strength staff couldn’t have helped him. That’s the spot we’re in with this board... anyone who improves did it completely on their own, anyone who doesn’t its the coaching staff’s fault. That’s insane. It’s a 2-way street. Kids have to want to work, coaches have to put them in positions to succeed and improve. I totally agree it is a 2 way street and that is why it is upsetting to see players not put in the position to succeed at times on the floor, and conversely watch players be counter productive and not develop a muscle when you know they have a personal trainer available at will (kind of like going to a weight watcher's meeting and then off to Pizza Hut for a deep dish pie) I am very happy for Evan. He is a hard worker and a great young man. I wish the best for him. It was nice to see him stroking his shot smoothly and confidently which isn't always easy when you are working on conditioning. As your muscles change, your stroke changes. Evan may be in a good physical place right now and it may go a long way to help the team.
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Post by rickyp on Jan 4, 2018 16:53:39 GMT -5
How is Evan Fisher not a captain he exemplifies all the things you want in that role.On and Off the court.I don't think he is is he. I thought Degnan Shivers and Nico someone right or wrong.
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Post by marshotel on Jan 4, 2018 17:18:08 GMT -5
How is Evan Fisher not a captain he exemplifies all the things you want in that role.On and Off the court.I don't think he is is he. I thought Degnan Shivers and Nico someone right or wrong. Unless something changed its Clareth and Degnan. www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/032717aaa.html
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Post by orange77 on Jan 4, 2018 17:34:36 GMT -5
How is Evan Fisher not a captain he exemplifies all the things you want in that role.On and Off the court. I don't think he is is he. I thought Degnan Shivers and Nico someone right or wrong. Evan seems like a fine young man, intelligent, hard worker, and I hope he continues to improve. But before the Quinnipiac game he was averaging less than 5 ppg which is not enough from anyone playing 25 min/game, so let's hope Monday was a breakout game for him. On the other hand, his rebounding seemed to be on the upswing already, averaging close to 7 rpg in December before the Marist game. Regardless of his stats, I still can't figure out why Degnan was named a captain over Evan, whom JP has endlessly praised as an on-court leader.
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Post by olddave on Jan 4, 2018 17:35:56 GMT -5
Personally glad to see the young man making headway, making himself better. No way current coach is helping in that way, not with his history. Nice to see someone that age maturing and striving to make themselves better I’m sorry, but it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that the coaching and strength staff couldn’t have helped him. That’s the spot we’re in with this board... anyone who improves did it completely on their own, anyone who doesn’t its the coaching staff’s fault. That’s insane. It’s a 2-way street. Kids have to want to work, coaches have to put them in positions to succeed and improve. We'll agree to disagree. I'll speak globally. What is the history of the current coaching staff of developing players. And you just can't talk about physicality but mental maturity and tough ness as well as court awareness. Just look back to last year, 4 1000 pt. veterans and a so so year. As far as strength goes, it has been commented here many times by many different posters on the strength, physique of Siena players vs. other MAAC teams. Let's go further in conditioning, even now it has been alluded to that some players are not in the best of condition. That my friend is the direct responsibility of the coach and his staff. If a player doesn't want to give 100% no one here would give second thought of cutting his scholarship. No I will give the credit to Evan, at least the majority of it. He always had a good stroke. And if he plays in the same rotation with Nico there is no reason why he shouldn't continue to be open, as opposing coach's will double team Nico every game. Ask yourself why Nico wasn't in the game for the last shot, Siena would have been playing 4 on 3.
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Post by great10110 on Jan 4, 2018 18:16:43 GMT -5
I still don’t believe Fisher is a D1 athlete. He has 0 lateral quickness and cannot rebound effectively on a constant basics. He does have a descent stroke when he is making them, but has has proven for the most part last 2 years and 14 games of this season that he cannot make the 3 point shot routinely. There was a reason Quinny left him wide open, they wanted him to take that shot. Against Quinny while he shot the ball well, he was constantly beaten for a rebound and the airball 3 that they saved for a go ahead 3 pointer should have been his ball. No excuse for not getting that ball. I think Evan is a nice kid and does things to keep the players focused, but he shouldn’t be playing the minutes that he does.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jan 4, 2018 18:22:33 GMT -5
How is Evan Fisher not a captain he exemplifies all the things you want in that role.On and Off the court.I don't think he is is he. I thought Degnan Shivers and Nico someone right or wrong. Because captains are not picked for their leadership qualities with this staff. Just as PT is not earned. You are selected based on some criteria only known by Patsos
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Post by great10110 on Jan 4, 2018 18:49:28 GMT -5
How is Evan Fisher not a captain he exemplifies all the things you want in that role.On and Off the court.I don't think he is is he. I thought Degnan Shivers and Nico someone right or wrong. Because captains are not picked for their leadership qualities with this staff. Just as PT is not earned. You are selected based on some criteria only known by Patsos You still bitter about how Lavon was treated his 4 years? If you were so unhappy why didn’t Lavon transfer out where his skills would have been better suited and he could have played for a coach that would have given him a longer leash?
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