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Post by billmurray on Jan 15, 2017 16:43:32 GMT -5
Combine the two and say Siena's D screwed up the Stag's O - great game as we got a lot of effort and hoop from a lot of guys! Big day, three in a row, first road win of the year and more with a positive commentary. ;-) Let's keep it going.
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 15, 2017 17:12:21 GMT -5
All aboard. Jump back on the bandwagon. Wait, jump back on; what are you talking about? I didn't know I was supposed to have gotten off earlier. No body tells me anything. Oh well, good thing I stayed on because I already have my seat in the wagon. You my friend are a man of conviction, you didn't waiver.
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Post by gorvy on Jan 15, 2017 17:28:28 GMT -5
That's the best you can do, a bait post? Nice one. No bait, you keep hating G. It fits you. Not hating, just not appreciating bait posts about "fair weather fans". But keep calling me a hater, it's what you do best.
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 15, 2017 17:37:34 GMT -5
Or maybe, if you’re JP, you give a kid an opportunity to turn it around and make sure he knows that you are sticking by him even at his lowest point? But that doesn’t fit into the narrative. If he's that much of a disturbing factor no you do not wait. You make your point quickly and decisively. He needed to know their were clear consequences for not being a team player. You don't let something fester for 17 games. If Jimmy has a fault, it's probably giving some kids a longer leash than maybe he should. I agree that maybe other coaches would have acted quicker but I don't think it's all on Jimmy nor all on Nico.
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Post by Tony on Jan 15, 2017 17:50:56 GMT -5
Good game plan by the staff today. FF has 3 big 3 point threats in Nelson, Cobb and Johnson and Saints defended them well, switching on picks and leaving FF non shooters open. 2 of the 3 pointers FF made today were further out than NBA range, they gave up very few open looks from 3- it was more than FF having a bad shooting day- Saints defended them well. We are still a offensively challenged team- more so without Nico. But our chemistry is undeniably better. I dont think we are that good a team- but we should be more fun to watch down stretch- team still has a outside shot at getting back to 500
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Post by olddave on Jan 15, 2017 19:05:14 GMT -5
everyone should be happy with this win, first roadie, 3W streak. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. The league is actually coming back to Siena as much as they are trying to improve. As stated by others truly whacky conference this year. Nico has screwed up big time this year, mainly attitude, but we don't know the behind the scenes. Before we all bash the kid to hell and back, indefinite could mean he gets his head together and back in 2 weeks. D'Arg left the door open. Hopefully Siena continues to play well, the league continues to come back to them. let's take it one game at a time be realistic.
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Post by hoopsforever on Jan 15, 2017 19:06:44 GMT -5
Here's the quote from the Stags' website:
"I think you have to give credit to Siena because they had a good defensive effort," Head Coach Sydney Johnson said. "I think our defense was very, very good as well, but we just couldn't get it going offensively today."
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Post by siena77 on Jan 15, 2017 19:12:12 GMT -5
Good game plan by the staff today. FF has 3 big 3 point threats in Nelson, Cobb and Johnson and Saints defended them well, switching on picks and leaving FF non shooters open. 2 of the 3 pointers FF made today were further out than NBA range, they gave up very few open looks from 3- it was more than FF having a bad shooting day- Saints defended them well. We are still a offensively challenged team- more so without Nico. But our chemistry is undeniably better. I dont think we are that good a team- but we should be more fun to watch down stretch- team still has a outside shot at getting back to 500 Agree completely, Tony. I've been very unhappy along with many others this season, but I will admit that, for today, Siena OUTCOACHED our oppponent. Everyone who played a few minutes contributed today. Marquis's stat line isn't all that impressive, but he definitely gave us energy. Smithen, Fisher, Shivers and Richard all more than held their own. As a team, we're still major underacheivers. But at least today was enjoyable to watch. Keep it up, guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 21:04:25 GMT -5
Bench chemistry was very, very good today - kids were all into it, supportive of the 5 on the floor and very supportive of each player as they came out and back to the bench. Winning always brings on the smiles but there were early smiles throughout the game as various plays were made - all in all a great trip and fun. Haven't been this hoarse in quite some time. JP had his moments but they were each fiery yet short lived and then back to business. Funniest moment was when one TO was whistled and JP, with the team quickly huddled on the floor came back to the water jug and grabbed four cups full - I've seen a lot of games in my lifetime but that was a first - and he didn't get them to throw at anyone. I think this team shed a weight and turned a corner and the positive note on that rings true as we still have 13 games before the "Three days in March"!
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 15, 2017 21:21:18 GMT -5
everyone should be happy with this win, first roadie, 3W streak. +1
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Jan 15, 2017 23:20:38 GMT -5
? Given that we've been playing much better the past three games pretending all is well and the cancer has been cleared after one win without Nico on the roster is completely and utterly foolish. If you think all of this teams short comings over the past 17 games hinged on Nico you're crazy. Let's take one game at a time. The next few are important and I don't want to see this team look ahead. Stay focused and keep a workman like attitude. I don't know you - but this post literally made me get an actual computer out to dislike this post (no disrespect to you as a person, who I don't know), and disagree accordingly. You DO realize the margin for error has been razor thin thus far right? You DO realize the player that's been asked to step away from the team was, aside from the Fairfield game, abominably ineffective right? You DO realize that the team seems to be buying into a defensive concept (not talking about one guy trying to shoot a lane once a game for a run-out dunk), right? You DO realize that our A-10 transfer PG and our All-MAAC guard are actually thriving in tandem, right? You can call it a coincidence, but Nico's decline in minutes (17, 3, 0) has coincided with an increase in victories. I sincerely hope that he returns to the program, but he was clearly a harbinger on this team's neck. Let's not ignore that.
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 15, 2017 23:33:59 GMT -5
? Given that we've been playing much better the past three games pretending all is well and the cancer has been cleared after one win without Nico on the roster is completely and utterly foolish. If you think all of this teams short comings over the past 17 games hinged on Nico you're crazy. Let's take one game at a time. The next few are important and I don't want to see this team look ahead. Stay focused and keep a workman like attitude. I don't know you - but this post literally made me get an actual computer out to dislike this post (no disrespect to you as a person, who I don't know), and disagree accordingly. You DO realize the margin for error has been razor thin thus far right? You DO realize the player that's been asked to step away from the team was, aside from the Fairfield game, abominably ineffective right? You DO realize that the team seems to be buying into a defensive concept (not talking about one guy trying to shoot a lane once a game for a run-out dunk), right? You DO realize that our A-10 transfer PG and our All-MAAC guard are actually thriving in tandem, right? You can call it a coincidence, but Nico's decline in minutes (17, 3, 0) has coincided with an increase in victories. I sincerely hope that he returns to the program, but he was clearly a harbinger on this team's neck. Let's not ignore that. I agree he was part of the issue just not the entire issue. YOU DO REALIZE ... This team has not shot the ball well, has not played defense well, has been unprepared at times, has lacked focus, has had other players injured, has had another player suspended and is not deep team. As far as today goes .... You do realize FF shot 3 - 22 from three today don't you? That all wasn't due to defense. FF missed some wide open shots. It happens. Did we play better today? Absolutely. So all I'm saying there were/are more issues at play than Nico. Some still exist. Just wait till we drop 2 in a row you'll read all about them right here ......
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Jan 15, 2017 23:42:09 GMT -5
? I don't know you - but this post literally made me get an actual computer out to dislike this post (no disrespect to you as a person, who I don't know), and disagree accordingly. You DO realize the margin for error has been razor thin thus far right? You DO realize the player that's been asked to step away from the team was, aside from the Fairfield game, abominably ineffective right? You DO realize that the team seems to be buying into a defensive concept (not talking about one guy trying to shoot a lane once a game for a run-out dunk), right? You DO realize that our A-10 transfer PG and our All-MAAC guard are actually thriving in tandem, right? You can call it a coincidence, but Nico's decline in minutes (17, 3, 0) has coincided with an increase in victories. I sincerely hope that he returns to the program, but he was clearly a harbinger on this team's neck. Let's not ignore that. I agree he was part of the issue just not the entire issue. YOU DO REALIZE ... This team has not shot the ball well, has not played defense well, has been unprepared at times, has lacked focus, has had other players injured, has had another player suspended and is not deep team. As far as today goes .... You do realize FF shot 3 - 22 from three today don't you? That all wasn't due to defense. FF missed some wide open shots. It happens. Did we play better today? Absolutely. So all I'm saying there were/are more issues at play than Nico. Some still exist. Just wait till we drop 2 in a row you'll read all about them right here ...... "completely and utterly foolish" is strong language, single indian. I didn't put those strong words into your keyboard. I'm aware there've been other deficiencies in this squad, but this very clearly was the biggest. Again, I acknowledge the kid's immense physical talent, but his play and demeanor was clearly a detriment. It's evident not only in the recent wins, but also in the recent losses of which he was a much larger part.
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Post by gorvy on Jan 15, 2017 23:43:30 GMT -5
? Given that we've been playing much better the past three games pretending all is well and the cancer has been cleared after one win without Nico on the roster is completely and utterly foolish. If you think all of this teams short comings over the past 17 games hinged on Nico you're crazy. Let's take one game at a time. The next few are important and I don't want to see this team look ahead. Stay focused and keep a workman like attitude. I don't know you - but this post literally made me get an actual computer out to dislike this post (no disrespect to you as a person, who I don't know), and disagree accordingly. You DO realize the margin for error has been razor thin thus far right? You DO realize the player that's been asked to step away from the team was, aside from the Fairfield game, abominably ineffective right? You DO realize that the team seems to be buying into a defensive concept (not talking about one guy trying to shoot a lane once a game for a run-out dunk), right? You DO realize that our A-10 transfer PG and our All-MAAC guard are actually thriving in tandem, right? You can call it a coincidence, but Nico's decline in minutes (17, 3, 0) has coincided with an increase in victories. I sincerely hope that he returns to the program, but he was clearly a harbinger on this team's neck. Let's not ignore that. Hey just wanted to let you know you don't have to break out your Commodore 64 to dislike oneindians posts anymore. All you have to do is click on "desktop", located in the green bar near the bottom of the page. Then, after you have released your venom you can switch back to mobile, located at the very bottom of the screen.
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Post by OneIndian on Jan 15, 2017 23:43:45 GMT -5
I agree he was part of the issue just not the entire issue. YOU DO REALIZE ... This team has not shot the ball well, has not played defense well, has been unprepared at times, has lacked focus, has had other players injured, has had another player suspended and is not deep team. As far as today goes .... You do realize FF shot 3 - 22 from three today don't you? That all wasn't due to defense. FF missed some wide open shots. It happens. Did we play better today? Absolutely. So all I'm saying there were/are more issues at play than Nico. Some still exist. Just wait till we drop 2 in a row you'll read all about them right here ...... "completely and utterly foolish" is strong language, single indian. I didn't put those strong words into your keyboard. I'm aware there've been other deficiencies in this squad, but this very clearly was the biggest. Again, I acknowledge the kid's immense physical talent, but his play and demeanor was clearly a detriment. It's evident not only in the recent wins, but also in the recent losses of which he was a much larger part. Read my post above I believe I explained my comment. I stand by saying it's foolish to believe Nico is the sole cause. Who are you going to blame the next time we drop a couple of games? Nico?
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