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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 12:43:08 GMT -5
20 wins is nice but as the saying goes: first is first, second is nothing! ![](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aOdTIUm6L._UL1500_.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 12:47:48 GMT -5
Let's start to give out participation trophy's instead.... then were all winners
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Post by MTS on May 23, 2016 12:58:28 GMT -5
The end of the season was very disappointing. That and a few mind-boggling losses (Cornell and Marist especially). But it was a successful season overall. Next year though it really is MAAC championship or bust (hopefully both regular season and tournament but at least one of them).
But after the Duke/Wisconsin games until the Iona semifinal loss Siena was 21-9 (.700) Siena also won 19 out of 26 games at one point. The team also had a bunch of really good wins UAlbany, Hofstra, St. Bonaventure and at Iona. This is despite the loss of Marquis Wright for most of the season. When he came back it kind of threw the team for a loop. Nico was beginning to take over the team and as you would expect from a freshmen deferred to a rusty Marquis when he returned. The chemistry wasn't there and Wright wasn't the same player.
I expect big things in 2016-17 - senior dominated teams are usually the ones that win the MAAC championship.
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Post by psycholojets on May 23, 2016 15:48:20 GMT -5
Actually CR, I have one of those tainted VW turbodiesels. No bumper stickers.
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Post by yankee on May 23, 2016 15:49:27 GMT -5
Let's start to give out participation trophy's instead.... then were all winners Congratulating Patsos on doing something kind and humane is excusing his record as head coach?
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Post by billmurray on May 23, 2016 16:27:50 GMT -5
Let's start to give out participation trophy's instead.... then were all winners Congratulating Patsos on doing something kind and humane is excusing his record as head coach? Patsos could be canonized and unless he wins multiple championships in the next 4 years he will remain dirt under the feet of some of the Siena faithful. Even if that were to happen, I believe there will be some who still will remain on the fence or remain negative about his coaching ability/style. He is polarizing and Siena fans are starving for championships. Nothing short of that will do. After all that is why we play the games. Win or go home. I get it. As a Marist fan expecting to win may not be concept that is easily understood.
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Post by SaintsFan on May 23, 2016 17:23:42 GMT -5
Since when does 20 wins equate to mediocrity? Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards When it takes 40 games Since when does 20 wins equate to mediocrity? Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards When you're a spoiled brat and entitled. It's the Yankee way. "We deserve to win every year, nobody else exists"
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Post by CellarRat on May 23, 2016 17:27:56 GMT -5
Actually CR, I have one of those tainted VW turbodiesels. No bumper stickers. Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards Well my post was deleted most likely from the intolerant saintsfan. I'm a vw fan - always wanted a diesel but never got around to getting one. I had a Jetta when I was much younger got it to 175k with the original clutch. Great vehicle.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 23, 2016 17:37:29 GMT -5
Since when does 20 wins equate to mediocrity? Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards When it takes 40 games When you're a spoiled brat and entitled. It's the Yankee way. "We deserve to win every year, nobody else exists" What year did we go 20-20??
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 23, 2016 17:41:34 GMT -5
Let's start to give out participation trophy's instead.... then were all winners Congratulating Patsos on doing something kind and humane is excusing his record as head coach? Who's excusing his record?? It doesn' need any excusing. He's done well here considering the shit he had to clean up. Christ, a guy in the conference retired a few days ago with a worse career record, and was proclaimed a "good one," by the peanut gallery. And that was without coaching at the worst job in the country for several years.
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Post by ltf on May 23, 2016 19:31:59 GMT -5
"Siena fans are starving for championships. Nothing short of that will do". Right. Why should we settle for less, our fans are paying top dollar, much more than any other school in the MAAC.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 19:45:54 GMT -5
Let's start to give out participation trophy's instead.... then were all winners Congratulating Patsos on doing something kind and humane is excusing his record as head coach? That response had nothing to do with the gesture(which I find admirable). I was responding in general to the "winning" debate.My point was, yes we may have won 20 games two out of three years but no regular or postseason conference championships.That's the goal no? This is now year four of Patsos tenure.. would like to see regular or postseason conference success(that means titles), were not to expect that as a fan base? Its been done in the past by multiple coaches(good and bad) in the same time period, but we can't expect that now? I was one of the few on this board who stuck by Mitch(surely too long) because what he helped do here. As I said we are going into year four of Patsos,he came as 500 coach and as Siena coach his record is basically 500. I have also said before "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me".
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 19:49:11 GMT -5
Yankee... worry about getting some recruits signed for your team this year ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by gorvy on May 23, 2016 20:14:54 GMT -5
Congratulating Patsos on doing something kind and humane is excusing his record as head coach? Who's excusing his record?? It doesn' need any excusing. He's done well here considering the shit he had to clean up. Christ, a guy in the conference retired a few days ago with a worse career record, and was proclaimed a "good one," by the peanut gallery. And that was without coaching at the worst job in the country for several years. wow, your hatred of me is making yourself look foolish. I said "good", get a grip. Not "outstanding", not "awesome", or even "great". Let's review: Owner of st Francis pas only ncaa appearance in the history of their program. Ended st bonaventures 22 year ncaa appearance drought. Earned an at large entry into tourney and played top 25 Kentucky to overtime. Enjoyed an in- season stint in the top 25. Atlantic 10 coach of the year 4 times. Postseason appearance 7 out of his last 9 seasons. Again, that makes him a "good" coach in my book., and I bet most people would agree. But in your book he sucks, just because I said it, lol. Credibility, gone. I guess when patsos does all of that I will elevate him to "good" status too. For now, I'll just stick with "so-so" Patsos. I think the reality is starting to set in for you considering the imminent drop off after this season, the decline in the schedule, the decline in the fan base, the desperate price increase, etc.
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Post by yankee on May 23, 2016 20:44:17 GMT -5
Yankee... worry about getting some recruits signed for your team this year ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) 6'9 transfer from an up conference team and are heavily involved with some out of U.S. players. I agree with you it was a great gesture on Patsos part. I also feel you on having doubt about the real progress he has shown so far as a head coach. But I just don't get why more people aren't saying good job on this. Has nothing to do with his mediocre coaching career. This is about real human interactions. Bravo jimmy.
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