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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 15:22:31 GMT -5
I know they haven't been popular here but I feel so much better about the season now that Hymes and Silas have worked their way back to where they are in the discussion. I've been worried about scoring and ball handling without Hymes and our post D without Silas is swiss cheese. As long as Wright manages the game, Hymes puts up Hymes' numbers, and Silas block shots at Silas' rate, I think this team can be pretty good. Plus speed and ballhandling vs most MAAC teams at 3 positions. PG, SG, PF. you do add scoring and some handling with Hymes but you take a big hit defensively. Going to be interesting to see the Silas situation. May be smart to play Ogunyemi/Bisping etc with Hymes on the floor rather than having Silas get in early foul trouble attempting to play help D every possession. A lot will depend on the ability to run under control and get production without having to spend too much time in a half court defensive set. Despite last year's November fiasco, Hymes still has a positive assist ratio. He and Wright can run as a team and but now Hymes doesn't have to run the point in the half court and can focus on getting open. Silas and Long could make a hell of a defensive shotblocking tandem. If they get in foul trouble so be it. JO and Bisping can bring offense off the bench and it allows Bisping to be less focused on the post and more focused on shooting and scoring off the bench. Someone else will still play a lot of SG but you have to keep Hymes involved. Noboby else has the Mojo. Without that scoring/attacking Mojo the team is flat. Wright is not a shooter. Hopefully, the increased pressing and conditioning of the team makes up for the lack of height and gets Hymes stealing the ball more. Like it or not, this team needs that guy who can basically just say 'screw you' and sink a 28 footer with 1 second left on the clock. |
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Post by basketballfan on Nov 1, 2013 15:58:53 GMT -5
Team played zone the majority of the time last season. Very limited man to man defense. Hymes surely had some defense laspes,but there was another player fom last yr that the coaches felt had more defense laspes. Regardless of what Tommy Huertor or any one else says, he was not considered the defense liability from last years team (by coaches). Appears this staff have a different view also.
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Post by greenblood on Nov 1, 2013 16:39:22 GMT -5
Let me add that I watched Hymes work in practice before Montreal. .a born leader that needs minutes...IMOP he will shine under Patsos...I don't care who starts...just get the best out of the guys that are on the floor...Hymes has a lot to offer...don't like the small lineup but if that's what we have to do to get minutes for the mighty mite magical midget so be it fixed that for you before KK got on it!  |
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Post by greenblood on Nov 1, 2013 16:40:47 GMT -5
Like it or not, this team needs that guy who can basically just say 'screw you' and sink a 28 footer with 1 second left on the clock. Well, we can't suit up Greg Manning can we??? |
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Post by Tony on Nov 1, 2013 16:49:56 GMT -5
I know they haven't been popular here but I feel so much better about the season now that Hymes and Silas have worked their way back to where they are in the discussion. I've been worried about scoring and ball handling without Hymes and our post D without Silas is swiss cheese. As long as Wright manages the game, Hymes puts up Hymes' numbers, and Silas block shots at Silas' rate, I think this team can be pretty good. Plus speed and ballhandling vs most MAAC teams at 3 positions. PG, SG, PF. I swear the games cant start quick enough.. KK you've been worried about scoring in back court-- Saintsfan is worried about defense in the backcourt..combined the two of you have seen the team exactly Zero times this year -- let the players sort it out--- the PW is no longer coaching the team the best players will end up with majority of the minutes. The only thing we can say for sure right now is a top 8 has pretty much emerged. Jo /Silas /Bisping/ Long/ Poole/ White /Hymes /Oliver /Wright -- let it go boys-- all 8 will play, the best players will get majority of min, no need to take shots at anyone.. cause they all are gonna play |
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Post by IndianSaint on Nov 1, 2013 20:09:57 GMT -5
I know they haven't been popular here but I feel so much better about the season now that Hymes and Silas have worked their way back to where they are in the discussion. I've been worried about scoring and ball handling without Hymes and our post D without Silas is swiss cheese. As long as Wright manages the game, Hymes puts up Hymes' numbers, and Silas block shots at Silas' rate, I think this team can be pretty good. Plus speed and ballhandling vs most MAAC teams at 3 positions. PG, SG, PF. you do add scoring and some handling with Hymes but you take a big hit defensively. Going to be interesting to see the Silas situation. May be smart to play Ogunyemi/Bisping etc with Hymes on the floor rather than having Silas get in early foul trouble attempting to play help D every possession. A lot will depend on the ability to run under control and get production without having to spend too much time in a half court defensive set. I'm thinking/hoping with Jimmy's system Hymes will be more aggressive on D. We never saw how much D he could play aggressively since he was the PG the last two years w/no really good back-up. He had to play softer D so as not to get in foul trouble. I could be wrong, but you really can't use the past two years as what he's capable of, at least on D. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can see him as a quick steals guy if allowed to play aggressively (since we're deep at the SG spot). Even if he's only an ave defender, he's an above ave scorer. I'll take my chances playing him, but I'm not the coach so thank goodness it's not up to me (or you). |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 1, 2013 21:16:31 GMT -5
The BEST starting line-up, if you wanna play your best players at the spot they have the best chance of succeeding, is:
pg-Wright
sg-open
sf-Poole
pf-Long
c-open
Those 3 are locks, the others are two man battles: C-Silas/J.O......SG-Hymes/White
That's 7 players with Bisping and Oliver rounding out the 9 man rotation.
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 1, 2013 21:27:11 GMT -5
you do add scoring and some handling with Hymes but you take a big hit defensively. Going to be interesting to see the Silas situation. May be smart to play Ogunyemi/Bisping etc with Hymes on the floor rather than having Silas get in early foul trouble attempting to play help D every possession. A lot will depend on the ability to run under control and get production without having to spend too much time in a half court defensive set. Despite last year's November fiasco, Hymes still has a positive assist ratio. He and Wright can run as a team and but now Hymes doesn't have to run the point in the half court and can focus on getting open. Silas and Long could make a hell of a defensive shotblocking tandem. If they get in foul trouble so be it. JO and Bisping can bring offense off the bench and it allows Bisping to be less focused on the post and more focused on shooting and scoring off the bench. Someone else will still play a lot of SG but you have to keep Hymes involved. Noboby else has the Mojo. Without that scoring/attacking Mojo the team is flat. Wright is not a shooter. Hopefully, the increased pressing and conditioning of the team makes up for the lack of height and gets Hymes stealing the ball more. Like it or not, this team needs that guy who can basically just say 'screw you' and sink a 28 footer with 1 second left on the clock. They need someone who can get to the rim and get fouled when the offense is breaking down. We saw what relying on a 28' er gets you. .. the coach fired. If Hymes is the bail out option its going to be a pretty long season |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 21:42:16 GMT -5
I know they haven't been popular here but I feel so much better about the season now that Hymes and Silas have worked their way back to where they are in the discussion. I've been worried about scoring and ball handling without Hymes and our post D without Silas is swiss cheese. As long as Wright manages the game, Hymes puts up Hymes' numbers, and Silas block shots at Silas' rate, I think this team can be pretty good. Plus speed and ballhandling vs most MAAC teams at 3 positions. PG, SG, PF. I swear the games cant start quick enough.. KK you've been worried about scoring in back court-- Saintsfan is worried about defense in the backcourt..combined the two of you have seen the team exactly Zero times this year -- let the players sort it out--- the PW is no longer coaching the team the best players will end up with majority of the minutes. The only thing we can say for sure right now is a top 8 has pretty much emerged. Jo /Silas /Bisping/ Long/ Poole/ White /Hymes /Oliver /Wright -- let it go boys-- all 8 will play, the best players will get majority of min, no need to take shots at anyone.. cause they all are gonna play Not taking shots, just sticking up for my boy. But I've studied the MAAC, not just Siena. I see the strengths and weaknesses of other teams. Siena could jump way up the standings based on ball control the way the league is set up this year. I think Hymes at SG makes that a strength. I think most teams are young and those 1st 4 spots give us an advantage. Most of the frontcourts in this league, including SFs, are extremely turnover prone. Wright, Hymes, Poole, and Long as a base really would seem to put us in the best position to gain extra possessions vs other MAAC teams. There are so many teams that look like they'll have trouble taking care of the ball and scoring that I think this lineup in particular puts our best ballhandling, guard quickness, and post defense out there and in opponents' faces. Over the course of a full game and a full season against these teams, in my opinion, it's the best option right now. You can say I haven't see this team live and in person sure, but really, with as obsessed as I am with MAAC basketball do you really think I don't at least have an idea of what I'm talking about? I can't predict the future and I make mistakes. But I think I generally know the players' games in the conference and I know the numbers. I made some big mistakes last year but I got 6 of 10 teams exactly right. I think if Siena wants to make some noise, they can do it by playing fast and crisp basketball. Hymes playing 30+ minutes a game goes a long way towards that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 21:52:36 GMT -5
They need someone who can get to the rim and get fouled when the offense is breaking down. We saw what relying on a 28' er gets you. .. the coach fired. If Hymes is the bail out option its going to be a pretty long season I agree, but Hymes also has averaged 102 FTA's per year in Mitch's clogged offense. It's also conceivable that with more movement in the halfcourt offense, especially by the frontcourt, that Hymes has more room to get to the rim and put that 77% FT % to good use even more. Plus, with Wright, Poole, and Long out there also driving under the same circumstances the pressure won't all be on him. Based on his Montreal stats, Wright would get to the line 180 times over 31 games. Good enough for 7th in the MAAC last year. 15 behind OD who missed most of them. |
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