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Post by yankee on Apr 6, 2013 13:23:16 GMT -5
And while Davidson is a great program they have only been led by one coach Bob McKillop in the past 20 years. Siena has proven they can win with multiple coaches (of course we've had a few really bad ones too). Davidson might be completely different when McKillop leaves. As Ed said Siena will draw much better than Davidson can. While VCU-Richmond-George Mason-George Washington might want Davidson you have to think SBU, URI, UMass, Duquense and Fordham want Siena for sure. Maybe even LaSalle and St. Joe's fall into the Siena catagory too. The rumor is Davidson wants conditions (i.e. travel partner like a Charleston) to join - Siena doesn't need/want any conditions. Of course Davidson's current league the SoCon just taken a lot of hits so they might be willing just to jump at anything. I do know it's time to get out of the MAAC..it has run it's course! And if by some chance Siena does stay, this type of attitude will not help the presidents of the other colleges in the MAAC to consider the TUC again for at least every other year. I feel some respect should still be given to the league you are presently in MTS.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 6, 2013 13:25:41 GMT -5
Yankee - So you think the presidents of the other colleges are calling M-T-S for a barometer of the amount of respect they get. He's got more pull around here than I thought!! (No offense Mike )
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Post by hooligan on Apr 6, 2013 13:32:25 GMT -5
Simply put, Siena can put more butts in Barclays Center seats than Davidson can. And not just a few more butts thousands more And hooligan has been on crusade since Jimmy was hired that the hire means Siena isn't going anywhere.I dont agree but we are all entitled to our opinions( no matter how wrong they are Exactly! Thank you for giving me credit with my prediction. I hope I'm wrong! Go saints!
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Post by hooligan on Apr 6, 2013 13:38:57 GMT -5
And while Davidson is a great program they have only been led by one coach Bob McKillop in the past 20 years. Siena has proven they can win with multiple coaches (of course And if by some chance Siena does stay, this type of attitude will not help the presidents of the other colleges in the MAAC to consider the TUC again for at least every other year. I feel some respect should still be given to the league you are presently in MTS. It doesnt matter what anyone on this site says about ensor or the maac. They would host the tourney in north korea if it meant the most visibility and money.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Apr 6, 2013 13:42:41 GMT -5
The rumor is Davidson wants conditions (i.e. travel partner like a Charleston) to join - Siena doesn't need/want any conditions. Of course Davidson's current league the SoCon just taken a lot of hits so they might be willing just to jump at anything. SoCon football took a hit with the loss of App State and Georgia Southern, but SoCon hoops will be fine. Charleston was a good program, but they never even won the SoCon tournament, so it's not like it's a huge loss. The SoCon's still got 9 all-sports members and plenty of potential to reload by raiding Big South and/or A-Sun programs. If Davidson's thinking has been that they want a league with good travel that they can win, then the new-look SoCon will be a fine choice. I think a scenario where Davidson could move is if the CAA raids more SoCon members. When Charleston was added, supposedly Davidson had declined. Elon and Furman were also widely reported, but the CAA didn't pursue them. If they're back on the table now that the CAA is down to 9 members, could the CAA take all three of Davidson, Elon, and Furman? They could join Charleston, UNC Wilmington, and William & Mary in a CAA southern division which could probably meet Davidson's travel expectations. My fear is that the A-10 might not need to add anyone else. The assumption is that the A-10 will need one more program to get to an even 12 if the Big East raids two programs from them. What if the Big East stays at 10 and doesn't raid anyone, or raids Wichita State and VCU, leaving the A-10 at an even 12 without any other additions? Then there won't be any room for Davidson *or* Siena.
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Post by gorvy on Apr 6, 2013 13:49:59 GMT -5
And while Davidson is a great program they have only been led by one coach Bob McKillop in the past 20 years. Siena has proven they can win with multiple coaches (of course we've had a few really bad ones too). Davidson might be completely different when McKillop leaves. As Ed said Siena will draw much better than Davidson can. While VCU-Richmond-George Mason-George Washington might want Davidson you have to think SBU, URI, UMass, Duquense and Fordham want Siena for sure. Maybe even LaSalle and St. Joe's fall into the Siena catagory too. The rumor is Davidson wants conditions (i.e. travel partner like a Charleston) to join - Siena doesn't need/want any conditions. Of course Davidson's current league the SoCon just taken a lot of hits so they might be willing just to jump at anything. I do know it's time to get out of the MAAC..it has run it's course! And if by some chance Siena does stay, this type of attitude will not help the presidents of the other colleges in the MAAC to consider the TUC again for at least every other year. I feel some respect should still be given to the league you are presently in MTS. That ship sailed a long time ago.
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Post by gorvy on Apr 6, 2013 13:50:46 GMT -5
And while Davidson is a great program they have only been led by one coach Bob McKillop in the past 20 years. Siena has proven they can win with multiple coaches (of course And if by some chance Siena does stay, this type of attitude will not help the presidents of the other colleges in the MAAC to consider the TUC again for at least every other year. I feel some respect should still be given to the league you are presently in MTS. It doesnt matter what anyone on this site says about ensor or the maac. They would host the tourney in north korea if it meant the most visibility and money. No, they wouldn't, and that's the problem.
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Post by MTS on Apr 6, 2013 13:53:55 GMT -5
The rumor is Davidson wants conditions (i.e. travel partner like a Charleston) to join - Siena doesn't need/want any conditions. Of course Davidson's current league the SoCon just taken a lot of hits so they might be willing just to jump at anything. My fear is that the A-10 might not need to add anyone else. The assumption is that the A-10 will need one more program to get to an even 12 if the Big East raids two programs from them. What if the Big East stays at 10 and doesn't raid anyone, or raids Wichita State and VCU, leaving the A-10 at an even 12 without any other additions? Then there won't be any room for Davidson *or* Siena. I'm not worried they'll take Wichita State or VCU (the Big East) that league looks like they want private, smaller Catholic schools. Butler is not Catholic but small and private. Most likely they take St. Louis and either Dayton (most likely) or Richmond when they go to 14.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 6, 2013 13:55:40 GMT -5
It doesnt matter what anyone on this site says about ensor or the maac. They would host the tourney in north korea if it meant the most visibility and money. No, they wouldn't, and that's the problem. Exactly if Ensor/members cared about $$ or visibility the Tournament would be at the TUC. The MAAC and its members are narrow minded and short sighted!
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Post by DelmartianEd on Apr 6, 2013 13:58:32 GMT -5
I'm not worried they'll take Wichita State or VCU (the Big East) that league looks like they want private, smaller Catholic schools. Butler is not Catholic but small and private. Most likely they take St. Louis and either Dayton (most likely) or Richmond when they go to 14. It would be best if they took St. Louis and Dayton--that would give them more natural rivals and good coverage of major metro areas in between their current markets--but I think it all depends on how many dollar signs Fox wags in front of their faces.
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Post by yankee on Apr 6, 2013 19:27:45 GMT -5
No, they wouldn't, and that's the problem. Exactly if Ensor/members cared about $$ or visibility the Tournament would be at the TUC. The MAAC and its members are narrow minded and short sighted! Honest answer I hope. Why do YOU want the tourney at the TUC?
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 6, 2013 20:12:03 GMT -5
It's fun. It has a big time college basketball feel. I've been to 3 other locations for the MAAC and it just doesn't sell. There's larger crowds at local high school games! Does Siena have an edge? I would say probably, but the years we where dominant, we probably would have won anywhere. Why do you think Patsos liked the TUC? It's the atmosphere! He didn't cry about it.....
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Post by hooligan on Apr 6, 2013 22:20:05 GMT -5
I've been to a couple different venues for the Maac tourney. Albany had the largest turnout and fan excitement. Buffalo (late 90's) was cool but not like Albany. All others I have attended (Trenton, Bridgeport) have been shabby. Lets hope we get out of the Maac, but if we don't let's pray that we can get the tourney back in Albany.
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Post by snagglepuss on Apr 6, 2013 22:46:10 GMT -5
It's fun. It has a big time college basketball feel. I've been to 3 other locations for the MAAC and it just doesn't sell. There's larger crowds at local high school games! Does Siena have an edge? I would say probably, but the years we where dominant, we probably would have won anywhere. Why do you think Patsos liked the TUC? It's the atmosphere! He didn't cry about it..... In all years the MAAC Tournament was at the Knick/Pepsi/TUC, Siena won it one time when they were not the number one seed, and failed to win it twice when they were the number one seed.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 7, 2013 10:22:39 GMT -5
Still to say or imply that a home court advantage doesn't exisit would be ridiculous.
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