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Post by goldsaint17 on Nov 14, 2019 14:27:32 GMT -5
sienasaints.com/news/2019/11/14/mens-basketball-maciariello-announces-first-recruiting-class.aspxOf note: Golson listed at 6-7, 235 with a 7-foot wingspan. “He can defend every position on the court and will add grit and power to our frontcourt." Also informative on BK (6-8, 205 pounds): "Bennett will be able to play the three or four for us, and has a tremendous basketball IQ," noted Maciariello. "We love big wings, and he will provide us with a workmanlike approach to the game. He has the ability to stretch the defense with his shot, as well as put it on the floor." Almost like I know something when I say it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:34:39 GMT -5
sienasaints.com/news/2019/11/14/mens-basketball-maciariello-announces-first-recruiting-class.aspxOf note: Golson listed at 6-7, 235 with a 7-foot wingspan. “He can defend every position on the court and will add grit and power to our frontcourt." Also informative on BK (6-8, 205 pounds): "Bennett will be able to play the three or four for us, and has a tremendous basketball IQ," noted Maciariello. "We love big wings, and he will provide us with a workmanlike approach to the game. He has the ability to stretch the defense with his shot, as well as put it on the floor." Almost like I know something when I say it... They also called Anosike a 'combo forward'. BK is a 4. However, if Camper is still around.....and the center position is open and he steps up? He's already up to 205. He might be 6-8 or 6-9, 230 by next November. And then why not?
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Post by mike60 on Nov 14, 2019 14:39:22 GMT -5
Why the if on Camper?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:43:37 GMT -5
It's not really an 'if'. All the more reason to look at BK as a center...for a year. Camper could still be playing 30 mpg. If Pickett, Carey, and Carpenter are also getting 30 mins a game...there aren't a lot of places for the other guys like Harris, King, and Sutherland to develop. It might very well be a Friday, BK, Golson platoon at the 40 mins available at the 5. I mean, Young might find a way in there...but I doubt it. If BK can play center...having also the skills to play the 4 or even 3 is a plus. If I had 5 6-8 PGs, I'd play them all. Just cause a kid can play at a more perimeter oriented position doesn't mean you should play him there.
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Post by IndianSaint on Nov 14, 2019 14:48:50 GMT -5
sienasaints.com/news/2019/11/14/mens-basketball-maciariello-announces-first-recruiting-class.aspxOf note: Golson listed at 6-7, 235 with a 7-foot wingspan. “He can defend every position on the court and will add grit and power to our frontcourt." Also informative on BK (6-8, 205 pounds): "Bennett will be able to play the three or four for us, and has a tremendous basketball IQ," noted Maciariello. "We love big wings, and he will provide us with a workmanlike approach to the game. He has the ability to stretch the defense with his shot, as well as put it on the floor." Almost like I know something when I say it... They also called Anosike a 'combo forward'. BK is a 4. However, if Camper is still around.....and the center position is open and he steps up? He's already up to 205. He might be 6-8 or 6-9, 230 by next November. And then why not? Why is he listed as a 3 then. I thought he’s a SF who could also play the 4; as opposed to a PF who can also play the 3. He’s not a C but might be able to play it if really needed. But, he may have to get stronger if he were to play the 5 as a Fr.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Nov 14, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -5
sienasaints.com/news/2019/11/14/mens-basketball-maciariello-announces-first-recruiting-class.aspxOf note: Golson listed at 6-7, 235 with a 7-foot wingspan. “He can defend every position on the court and will add grit and power to our frontcourt." Also informative on BK (6-8, 205 pounds): "Bennett will be able to play the three or four for us, and has a tremendous basketball IQ," noted Maciariello. "We love big wings, and he will provide us with a workmanlike approach to the game. He has the ability to stretch the defense with his shot, as well as put it on the floor." Almost like I know something when I say it... They also called Anosike a 'combo forward'. BK is a 4. However, if Camper is still around.....and the center position is open and he steps up? He's already up to 205. He might be 6-8 or 6-9, 230 by next November. And then why not? Sure... he might have some 5-man equity eventually, and I’ve said that. Things eventually change. But from the start, I told everyone that the staff thinks Golson is a versatile 4/5 and that BK is a 3/4 (primarily a skilled 4). There’s a vision where you play them both together at the 4 and 5 long-term where BK is the nominal offensive 5 with his crafty play and Golson’s size and length gives him the ability to defend 5’s while BK can be a weak-side rim protector (almost 2 blocks per game).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:51:27 GMT -5
They also called Anosike a 'combo forward'. BK is a 4. However, if Camper is still around.....and the center position is open and he steps up? He's already up to 205. He might be 6-8 or 6-9, 230 by next November. And then why not? Sure... he might have some 5-man equity eventually, and I’ve said that. Things eventually change. But from the start, I told everyone that the staff thinks Golson is a versatile 4/5 and that BK is a 3/4 (primarily a skilled 4). There’s a vision where you play them both together at the 4 and 5 long-term where BK is the nominal offensive 5 with his crafty play and Golson’s size and length gives him the ability to defend 5’s while BK can be a weak-side rim protector (almost 2 blocks per game). I could see how they could fit well together long term. I'm just saying that when you have potentially 3 great guards and Camper at the 4...plus others...you might want to go with that skilled guy at the 5 if he can handle it. It would only help them run and gun more effectively.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Nov 14, 2019 15:09:51 GMT -5
Sure... he might have some 5-man equity eventually, and I’ve said that. Things eventually change. But from the start, I told everyone that the staff thinks Golson is a versatile 4/5 and that BK is a 3/4 (primarily a skilled 4). There’s a vision where you play them both together at the 4 and 5 long-term where BK is the nominal offensive 5 with his crafty play and Golson’s size and length gives him the ability to defend 5’s while BK can be a weak-side rim protector (almost 2 blocks per game). I could see how they could fit well together long term. I'm just saying that when you have potentially 3 great guards and Camper at the 4...plus others...you might want to go with that skilled guy at the 5 if he can handle it. It would only help them run and gun more effectively. Sure, and with the way Manny is rebounding, maybe he winds up doing what I’m suggesting Golson do next with BK (especially if they can’t grab a grad kid up front). But for the long haul, having a super-long, physical kid like Golson with some faceup ability makes a lot of sense even if he can’t shoot. I’d rather a 6-6/6-7 kid playing the 5 with a 7-foot wingspan and bounce than a lot of the 6-8/6-9 kids you get in our league.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 15:58:05 GMT -5
I could see how they could fit well together long term. I'm just saying that when you have potentially 3 great guards and Camper at the 4...plus others...you might want to go with that skilled guy at the 5 if he can handle it. It would only help them run and gun more effectively. Sure, and with the way Manny is rebounding, maybe he winds up doing what I’m suggesting Golson do next with BK (especially if they can’t grab a grad kid up front). But for the long haul, having a super-long, physical kid like Golson with some faceup ability makes a lot of sense even if he can’t shoot. I’d rather a 6-6/6-7 kid playing the 5 with a 7-foot wingspan and bounce than a lot of the 6-8/6-9 kids you get in our league. I just see BK as the closest thing to a future Burns as we have. Maybe he won't be at the level of Burns is next year...but maybe something good enough that the addition of Carpenter as well fully makes up for it. On paper, BK can drive, adapt in the lane, throw em down, and hit the occasional outside shot.... Isn't that exactly what Burns is doing and the type you want in a pick and roll? It's not like Burns is some defensive superstar either.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Nov 14, 2019 16:05:48 GMT -5
Sure, and with the way Manny is rebounding, maybe he winds up doing what I’m suggesting Golson do next with BK (especially if they can’t grab a grad kid up front). But for the long haul, having a super-long, physical kid like Golson with some faceup ability makes a lot of sense even if he can’t shoot. I’d rather a 6-6/6-7 kid playing the 5 with a 7-foot wingspan and bounce than a lot of the 6-8/6-9 kids you get in our league. I just see BK as the closest thing to a future Burns as we have. Maybe he won't be at the level of Burns is next year...but maybe something good enough that the addition of Carpenter as well fully makes up for it. On paper, BK can drive, adapt in the lane, throw em down, and hit the occasional outside shot.... Isn't that exactly what Burns is doing and the type you want in a pick and roll? It's not like Burns is some defensive superstar either. I think Golson will do all the things you mention in year one except shoot the ball... and he’ll be a much better rebounder than BK. It’s all about lineups that work best, so we’ll see. The fact that either BK, CG, or AC is the worst player in this class says a lot. I think we grabbed 3 future starters, all who could eventually be all-league, who fit into exactly what the head coach wants to do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 16:12:02 GMT -5
I just see BK as the closest thing to a future Burns as we have. Maybe he won't be at the level of Burns is next year...but maybe something good enough that the addition of Carpenter as well fully makes up for it. On paper, BK can drive, adapt in the lane, throw em down, and hit the occasional outside shot.... Isn't that exactly what Burns is doing and the type you want in a pick and roll? It's not like Burns is some defensive superstar either. I think Golson will do all the things you mention in year one except shoot the ball... and he’ll be a much better rebounder than BK. It’s all about lineups that work best, so we’ll see. The fact that either BK, CG, or AC is the worst player in this class says a lot. I think we grabbed 3 future starters, all who could eventually be all-league, who fit into exactly what the head coach wants to do. They could all be 2-way players, yes. That at least gives you a chance for starterdom. Same could be said of Harris and Sutherland. I just suspect Carpenter and BK will come in more ready both skill and athleticism wise. Like Harris, Golson may come in physically ready...however, we don't know about skill wise.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 14, 2019 17:33:49 GMT -5
I really like the kids we have AND the kids coming in. With that said, there is no "replacement" for Burns anywhere on the horizon. Guys like him don't often end up at this level.
I still think that Young is going to surprise many, including myself. Just seeing him for the little bit that I have made me think that I have underestimated him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 17:38:10 GMT -5
I really like the kids we have AND the kids coming in. With that said, there is no "replacement" for Burns anywhere on the horizon. Guys like him don't often end up at this level. I still think that Young is going to surprise many, including myself. Just seeing him for the little bit that I have made me think that I have underestimated him. Burns is mostly just a good player put in a great situation for him. I think any solid handling and athletic pick and roll big who can make his FTs will succeed just the same. However, even if he develops into a solid player, Kyle Young still might not be an ideal pick and roll big...much like Evan Fisher wasn't one. He might not be quick and agile enough to attack the rack. Burns is successful cause he athletic, can dribble drive, and can adapt in the lane. You can find guys like that. A lot of bigs will look great playing with Pickett and Carey.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Nov 14, 2019 18:29:52 GMT -5
Jamion’s starting big at GW is averaging 16 points and 17 rebounds. His starting PG is averaging 12, 5, and 6 assists, but is also turning it over 6 times per game and is under 40% from the field. If you run a ton of 1-5 ball screens, you are going to wind up with big counting stats for your PG and C. It’s a matter of efficiency. Last year Jamion had the perfect PG but not the big, this year he might have the perfect big but not the PG.
This isn’t meant as a Jamion bash or anything, it’s just more a solid case study since we know his teams are going to ball screen the pants off you. Right now, I think Siena has the PG, the big, and the two perfect running mates. Honestly, the perfect 5th would be a 3&D guy who hits shots and defends multiple positions.
We are probably set for the long run in terms of having ball-handlers who can do it all... maybe not a guy as good at it as Pickett if he were to leave, but still lots of good ballhandlers. I think the kids we are recruiting are much closer to being the right big than to being a Fisher type.
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Post by Tony on Nov 14, 2019 18:39:53 GMT -5
If Golson is really up to 6'7" Siena will have got a steal. Colin has P6 athleticism- not a lot of call of 6'5.5" power forwards at that level. If Coilin is 6'7" no way we would have signed him in spring-- hell I hope he is 6'8 by time he gets to Siena next summer
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