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Post by indian82 on Aug 8, 2019 15:44:23 GMT -5
Losing Sloan will affect us this year. Even with his known deficiencies. That 10-15 mins off the bench could have helped. Spreading the floor and making the defense adjust when he came in. Not saying we can’t recover, but he would have been a nice option on offense. I wish him nothing but the best. With that said it is worth considering that he left for a reason and that could very well be how good some of the new guys are. Could very well be. But that doesn't diminish the shooting skills he had. And like I said I believe we can recover from that loss, but a loss nonetheless, considering our depth this year.
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Post by MTS on Aug 8, 2019 15:51:41 GMT -5
dailygazette.com/article/2019/08/07/old-camp-evaluation-still-motivates-maciarielloDoesn't sound like Don will be out long. No need to rush him with the season three months away he'll have plenty of time to get back 100% and prepare for the year. “That’s my guy. I love Sloan Seymour,” said Pickett, who first visited Siena at the same time as Seymour. “That’s 'Slime.' That’s what I call him. . . . We’re not playing his brand of basketball, but he’s going to be successful wherever he goes. Going back with coach Christian, he was successful last year in that offense, and that’s probably just going to grow for him.”
While Pickett said he wished Seymour the best, he also said the departure motivated the remaining Saints.
“It brought us closer together,” Pickett said. “We want to show everybody how good we really are.”Team is focused and motivated. Watch out.... pretty obvious Sloan did not feel he was going to fit with the style. This is attack and finish (similar to Fran ball) that doesn't fit Sloan's game at all. Of course 10-15 3 point shooter off the bench would've been nice but if you don't want to buy in...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 9:34:31 GMT -5
Quinny looks about 8 deep with starter quality players. Balanc, Lews, and Pinkney are already contributing at a pretty good level. Even McGuire looks ok.
Iona and Rider are in the same boat in my eyes.
If Harris really is the next Ubiles or Dimencio Vaughn type, Siena may have the potential for the best all-around starting lineup. However, I fear Siena's bench will get killed by these teams. Siena has to stay healthy and get serviceable production out of Sutherland, Ratliff, Friday, King and Co.
Saints likely don't have the 3pt shooting depth that Iona and Quinny have that will allow them to cut deficits fast. Siena will have to continue to outwork teams all game with their dribble driving and defense.
They just can't afford to be as lazy on D as Iona and Quinny can and Rider has more defensive depth than we do and already gets more possessions than us. I fear we may wear down as the season goes on.
Saints have their work cut out. I have Siena on the 3/4 cusp right now. Losing out on Dunn really hurts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 10:12:58 GMT -5
A workman like PF and the most athletic big man in the conference. Also, Elijah Burns should be a solid piece for us but 'most athletic big man in the MAAC' is probably not accurate. Marfo, Pinkney, and Falzon are quite mobile and as tall or taller. Agee is very athletic and already produces at a level we are only dreaming of for Burns. Rider's 2 bigs (Scott/Marshall) are both solid. Manhattan has Williams and Paulicap who people seem to forget that just 2 years ago averaged 10 & 7 and had 78 blocks when he was healthy. Eze and Maidoh for FF, Traore for Monmouth. SPU has some athleticism there. The frontcourts are fairly solid for a lot of the MAAC going into this year. Where Burns could help most is his style offensively. He's fairly skilled for a big man and combines that skill with a decent amount of athleticism and FT shooting. He can hold down the fort for us there. I wouldn't go calling him the most athletic big in the MAAC though. I don't think he is. Technically, with Tchougang, he might not even be the most athletic big on the team. Burns/Friday/Sutherland/Young/Tchougang...it won't be easy for them. I think the frontcourts will be better this year. Saints will need to fight.
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Post by MTS on Aug 13, 2019 10:20:21 GMT -5
Quinny looks about 8 deep with starter quality players. Balanc, Lews, and Pinkney are already contributing at a pretty good level. Even McGuire looks ok. Iona and Rider are in the same boat in my eyes. If Harris really is the next Ubiles or Dimencio Vaughn type, Siena may have the potential for the best all-around starting lineup. However, I fear Siena's bench will get killed by these teams. Siena has to stay healthy and get serviceable production out of Sutherland, Ratliff, Friday, King and Co. Saints likely don't have the 3pt shooting depth that Iona and Quinny have that will allow them to cut deficits fast. Siena will have to continue to outwork teams all game with their dribble driving and defense. They just can't afford to be as lazy on D as Iona and Quinny can and Rider has more defensive depth than we do and already gets more possessions than us. I fear we may wear down as the season goes on. Saints have their work cut out. I have Siena on the 3/4 cusp right now. Losing out on Dunn really hurts. Bench is overrated. This isn't Duke or Kentucky - who do you want on your bench? Fran's great teams had a frosh/soph Downey and Wignot...Josh Duell, Tay Fisher (who was great offense) frosh Anosike the 07-08/08-09 teams had Clarence Jackson off the bench as a Fr/So....and I'm not comparing our starters to Fran's starters but the bench stuff is overrated. They just need to be solid role players/glue guys. Obviously you have to have some luck and stay healthy nobody disagrees there (that goes for every team pretty much in the country). But as long as your bench is just serviceable you'll be fine. Iona really doesn't have that much of a bench either. Rider is a classic underachiever. And Quinny lost the POY. Let's see Rich Kelly as their top option now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 10:33:59 GMT -5
Quinny looks about 8 deep with starter quality players. Balanc, Lews, and Pinkney are already contributing at a pretty good level. Even McGuire looks ok. Iona and Rider are in the same boat in my eyes. If Harris really is the next Ubiles or Dimencio Vaughn type, Siena may have the potential for the best all-around starting lineup. However, I fear Siena's bench will get killed by these teams. Siena has to stay healthy and get serviceable production out of Sutherland, Ratliff, Friday, King and Co. Saints likely don't have the 3pt shooting depth that Iona and Quinny have that will allow them to cut deficits fast. Siena will have to continue to outwork teams all game with their dribble driving and defense. They just can't afford to be as lazy on D as Iona and Quinny can and Rider has more defensive depth than we do and already gets more possessions than us. I fear we may wear down as the season goes on. Saints have their work cut out. I have Siena on the 3/4 cusp right now. Losing out on Dunn really hurts. Bench is overrated. This isn't Duke or Kentucky - who do you want on your bench? Fran's great teams had a frosh/soph Downey and Wignot...Josh Duell, Tay Fisher (who was great offense) frosh Anosike the 07-08/08-09 teams had Clarence Jackson off the bench as a Fr/So....and I'm not comparing our starters to Fran's starters but the bench stuff is overrated. They just need to be solid role players/glue guys. Obviously you have to have some luck and stay healthy nobody disagrees there (that goes for every team pretty much in the country). But as long as your bench is just serviceable you'll be fine. Iona really doesn't have that much of a bench either. Rider is a classic underachiever. And Quinny lost the POY. Let's see Rich Kelly as their top option now. I'm not sure Rich Kelly is the best creator on Quinny anymore. Lewis is lightning fast with a great handle and is already racking up assists. I don't think he has much of a jumper but man can he get to the rim fast. Averaged 15 pts and 5.7 assists in 3 games in Canada. There's 200 mins in a game. If the starters get 30 mpg...then that leaves 50 for the bench. That 25% of the game...even before any potential injury. Essentially, that's like knowing going into a 4 quarter game that you're going to lose one of the quarters. Basically, MTS, you're telling me that for Siena to beat Rider, Iona, and Quinny its starters have to not only outscore their starters but actually outscore them by enough that it offsets that quarter of the game that Siena will likely be behind in. That seems like too big of a headstart to give teams that could be right next to you in the standings.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 13, 2019 10:42:54 GMT -5
Bench is overrated. This isn't Duke or Kentucky - who do you want on your bench? Fran's great teams had a frosh/soph Downey and Wignot...Josh Duell, Tay Fisher (who was great offense) frosh Anosike the 07-08/08-09 teams had Clarence Jackson off the bench as a Fr/So....and I'm not comparing our starters to Fran's starters but the bench stuff is overrated. They just need to be solid role players/glue guys. Obviously you have to have some luck and stay healthy nobody disagrees there (that goes for every team pretty much in the country). But as long as your bench is just serviceable you'll be fine. Iona really doesn't have that much of a bench either. Rider is a classic underachiever. And Quinny lost the POY. Let's see Rich Kelly as their top option now. I'm not sure Rich Kelly is the best creator on Quinny anymore. Lewis is lightning fast with a great handle and is already racking up assists. I don't think he has much of a jumper but man can he get to the rim fast. There's 200 mins in a game. If the starters get 30 mpg...then that leaves 50 for the bench. That 25% of the game...even before any potential injury. Essentially, that's like knowing going into a 4 quarter game that you're going to lose one of the quarters. Basically, MTS, you're telling me that for Siena to beat Rider, Iona, and Quinny its starters have to not only outscore their starters but actually outscore them by enough that it offsets that quarter of the game that Siena will likely be behind in. That seems like too big of a headstart to give teams that could be right next to you in the standings. I think you are simplifying things too much-- Siena isn't going to sub in waves and take all their starters off the floor. Sure, it's a great luxury for Quinny to have a better backup wing in Balanc than us, but I have a tough time buying that playing Jalen/Don/Ratliff/Camper/Burns or Jalen/Don/Harris/Sutherland/Friday is going to somehow get killed by QU having an extra good guard. Maybe we lose the minutes our guards don't play (again-- I don't think we are 100% done recruiting) and Hein or King matches against Savion Lewis means you give up a bit. I agree we may be somewhat lacking on depth-- and I'd like to see us get another guard/wing who can play right away. But we also should remember the Jalen bump also applies to bench guys. Friday was playing well when healthy-- lots of easy buckets. Sutherland will get easy catch-and-shoot looks and one-on-ones to attack closeouts. If Ratliff shoots like last year, he won't play much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 10:53:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure Rich Kelly is the best creator on Quinny anymore. Lewis is lightning fast with a great handle and is already racking up assists. I don't think he has much of a jumper but man can he get to the rim fast. There's 200 mins in a game. If the starters get 30 mpg...then that leaves 50 for the bench. That 25% of the game...even before any potential injury. Essentially, that's like knowing going into a 4 quarter game that you're going to lose one of the quarters. Basically, MTS, you're telling me that for Siena to beat Rider, Iona, and Quinny its starters have to not only outscore their starters but actually outscore them by enough that it offsets that quarter of the game that Siena will likely be behind in. That seems like too big of a headstart to give teams that could be right next to you in the standings. I think you are simplifying things too much-- Siena isn't going to sub in waves and take all their starters off the floor. Sure, it's a great luxury for Quinny to have a better backup wing in Balanc than us, but I have a tough time buying that playing Jalen/Don/Ratliff/Camper/Burns or Jalen/Don/Harris/Sutherland/Friday is going to somehow get killed by QU having an extra good guard. Maybe we lose the minutes our guards don't play (again-- I don't think we are 100% done recruiting) and Hein or King matches against Savion Lewis means you give up a bit. I agree we may be somewhat lacking on depth-- and I'd like to see us get another guard/wing who can play right away. But we also should remember the Jalen bump also applies to bench guys. Friday was playing well when healthy-- lots of easy buckets. Sutherland will get easy catch-and-shoot looks and one-on-ones to attack closeouts. If Ratliff shoots like last year, he won't play much. Balanc will start I think. He has a good jumper and is athletic (16.7 PPG in Canada). Williams could now be the backup to him. Regarding, your 'sub in waves' thing. That's NOT what I'm thinking. Every player who takes the floor has to produce when he's in there, no matter who he's in there with. If Hein goes in and the offense stalls even with Pickett on the floor, it hurts the team just the same. Teams double Pickett etc.. It's all about the overall contribution. The fact is, Iona is 8 deep with proven (at some college level) 35%+ capable 3 pt shooters. They'll keep shooting it no matter who is on the floor. These are disadvantages some of these other teams may not have to deal with. Siena's one main advantage has to be defense and possessions. However, in a head to head, these teams don't turn it over as much or rebound bad enough for Siena to really get that great of a possession advantage that they might get vs. the bottom of the MAAC. It could all come down to shooting efficiency over the full game. Hein bouncing 3 shots off the rim might be enough to lose the game. People have to remember that playing Darwiche/Bayer over Smithen last year was costing Siena at least 4 ppg in point differential by the numbers. It then reversed at the end of the season because of the switch. All production matters. Every minute matters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 11:01:00 GMT -5
In my opinion, this team needs Harris to be its Dimencio Vaughn or Eddy Ubiles and Ratliff has to be its Rob Poole for Siena to win this thing.
Gary Harris has to be an absolute stud at a level just below Pickett. That, alone, is a TON to ask of a freshman.
But on top of that, they need an all-around solid backcourt bench player. Ratliff may be Siena's ONLY chance for that.
Siena has to get to at least 8 deep with starter caliber players. Then their other strengths have a chance to put them over the top...otherwise they could be playing a bit of catch up.
Hopefully, Ratliff, Sutherland, and Friday do that for us...and if not one of them...King or Young.
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Post by Tony on Aug 13, 2019 11:39:52 GMT -5
Team is going to be deeper than you guys think. You are writing off Matt Hein, way to prematurely- he is no Bayer ( that had almost no D1 p[laying experience) Matt does all the little things coaches love. That’s why he played 20 min a game on a top 90 team. Harris looks good, really good, but is a freshman. Luke is a player and will only get better as season progresses, Ratliff is solid . And KK sorry Falzone is nowhere and I mean nowhere near as athletic as Burns. Team will go as far as Pickett, Carey and Burns can carry us
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 11:51:16 GMT -5
Team is going to be deeper than you guys think. You are writing off Matt Hein, way to prematurely- he is no Bayer ( that had almost no D1 p[laying experience) Matt does all the little things coaches love. That’s why he played 20 min a game on a top 90 team. Harris looks good, really good, but is a freshman. Luke is a player and will only get better as season progresses, Ratliff is solid . And KK sorry Falzone is nowhere and I mean nowhere near as athletic as Burns. Team will go as far as Pickett, Carey and Burns can carry us I don't know. I watched Falzon take it to the rack yesterday pretty quickly and aggressively from the 3 pt line. He's an athlete. Falzon doesn't do much besides shoot and drive a bit but he is athletic. Burns is not as athletic as Harris....so you can't say that he's far and above everyone. He's got solid athleticism for his center position. Full stop. Athleticism and results are 2 different things. Hein, I've said my piece on. He may help maintain the defensive status quo while he's in. That's going to have to be Siena's niche. Offensively though, he's probably gonna hurt. Up to this point, he's nowhere near Smithen on either side of the ball. I hope I'm wrong and Hein's solid all-around. My God, I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Tony on Aug 13, 2019 12:25:32 GMT -5
The video you saw on Falzone was probably a few years ago- injuries have taken their toll on Arron. Hopefully he can play an entire season for Quinny, but Falzone has been injury prone, ( knee and ankle) plus has nagging hip and back problems
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 12:28:01 GMT -5
The video you saw on Falzone was probably a few years ago- injuries have taken their toll on Arron. Hopefully he can play an entire season for Quinny, but Falzone has been injury prone, ( knee and ankle) plus has nagging hip and back problems No. He played vs. McGill yesterday. Quinny has been playing 3 games in Canada over the last week. I watched online. Kid is agile and athletic. Finishing the play at the rim vs. D1 competition is different though. I don't expect him to be getting to the rim a lot during the season...but he can get there if it's open. There was an end of shotclock play that he tried to make things happen. He missed or got fouled or something but he looked good doing it. Also, Balanc can shoot and drive but has no left hand. Lewis is great with the ball and plays with a ton of energy but almost never even looks for a jumper. Pinkney at 7 ft is tall, athletic, and finishes. He puts on a bit more muscle as his career moves forward and he'll be pretty good. Marfo, already the MAAC's best rebounder, also looks improved and more comfortable.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 13, 2019 12:52:39 GMT -5
The video you saw on Falzone was probably a few years ago- injuries have taken their toll on Arron. Hopefully he can play an entire season for Quinny, but Falzone has been injury prone, ( knee and ankle) plus has nagging hip and back problems No. He played vs. McGill yesterday. Quinny has been playing 3 games in Canada over the last week. I watched online. Kid is agile and athletic. Finishing the play at the rim vs. D1 competition is different though. I don't expect him to be getting to the rim a lot during the season...but he can get there if it's open. My buddy Kevin Sweeney (he writes about college basketball and grew up in the area, you guys have seen some of his stuff on these boards) sent me this scout. He goes to Northwestern so he is very familiar with Falzon's game: "I wouldn't necessarily call Falzon "athletic". In the Big Ten, he got blown by all the time because he doesn't move his feet well. He's also not very strong and doesn't really rebound. Those weaknesses will probably be mitigated some by his size and length in the MAAC where guys are less athletic and aren't as big. In the Big Ten after the injuries Falzon was somewhat like Sloan Seymour in that he had one plus trait (shooting) and a bunch of below-average skills. Those below average skills could become average, in which he becomes a pretty solid starter for a MAAC team. He's not all the sudden going to start making plays off the bounce but he can probably catch a lob or put it on the floor a few times after getting a rebound. Based on the box scores from QUs trip it looks like he didn't play any 5 which is good because he definitely can't play there because he is soft and would get hurt. If he can get to 38-40% from 3 again and is average everywhere else he is pretty good." In terms of comparing Burns to Falzon, I don't think it's a fair comp because Burns is a 5 for us. Agee is the other case of a big who can play on the perimeter, put it on the deck, and shoot. He is more athletic than Burns and likely is better than Burns. However-- I do think Burns will be a matchup problem for a lot of teams. Falzon doesn't really create mismatches at the 4 since he doesn't do anything inside.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 12:56:48 GMT -5
No. He played vs. McGill yesterday. Quinny has been playing 3 games in Canada over the last week. I watched online. Kid is agile and athletic. Finishing the play at the rim vs. D1 competition is different though. I don't expect him to be getting to the rim a lot during the season...but he can get there if it's open. My buddy Kevin Sweeney (he writes about college basketball and grew up in the area, you guys have seen some of his stuff on these boards) sent me this scout. He goes to Northwestern so he is very familiar with Falzon's game: "I wouldn't necessarily call Falzon "athletic". In the Big Ten, he got blown by all the time because he doesn't move his feet well. He's also not very strong and doesn't really rebound. Those weaknesses will probably be mitigated some by his size and length in the MAAC where guys are less athletic and aren't as big. In the Big Ten after the injuries Falzon was somewhat like Sloan Seymour in that he had one plus trait (shooting) and a bunch of below-average skills. Those below average skills could become average, in which he becomes a pretty solid starter for a MAAC team. He's not all the sudden going to start making plays off the bounce but he can probably catch a lob or put it on the floor a few times after getting a rebound. Based on the box scores from QUs trip it looks like he didn't play any 5 which is good because he definitely can't play there because he is soft and would get hurt. If he can get to 38-40% from 3 again and is average everywhere else he is pretty good." In terms of comparing Burns to Falzon, I don't think it's a fair comp because Burns is a 5 for us. Agee is the other case of a big who can play on the perimeter, put it on the deck, and shoot. He is more athletic than Burns and likely is better than Burns. However-- I do think Burns will be a matchup problem for a lot of teams. Falzon doesn't really create mismatches at the 4 since he doesn't do anything inside. The discussion was athleticism. Falzon played a lot of SF for Quinny so the better argument may be that it’s a bit apples to oranges. Burns still has to prove he’s even a top 3 or 4 center though. Marfo will lead the league on the boards. If he plays 25+ mins a game, I don’t think it will even be close. Dunleavy is talking about him leading the nation in rebounding and given his rates, I believe it’s possible. Agee is probably just better. Then there’s all the others I mentioned.
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