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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 20:18:24 GMT -5
I kinda agree with KK. We need a little more for me to feel confident about this team. If they get Harris that'll go a long way towards easing my guard depth concerns. If he comes, he starts at the 2 or 3 - and the shooting challenged Camper goes to the bench. I also need to see some instant guaranteed offense coming off that bench that Richard would have provided. I don't see it right now. And then I there's the whole untested first time head coach thing. I have a feeling that Carm is either going to be a total disaster or the next Mark Few. There won't be any grey area there. I won't lie that I'd be more confident if JC was still coach and Walker and Richard were still with us. But they're not. So overall I really have no idea to expect with this team. But Pickett alone will keep them in contention no matter what else happens. Yeah, Pickett will keep the boat afloat but they need full crew to sail all the way to title town.
I felt real good about things with Richard and Walker. Without them, I'm very nervous. I'm not sure we have enough scoring depth to make up for our so-so D. Harris could take away a lot of fear and maybe help replace Smithen's defensive energy. We have no super on the ball guy who can take the pressure off Pickett. Carey is probably just average on D and not a stopper. Camper can play the ball well but he doesn't force possession changes or block a lot of shots. We need a defensive playmaker who won't completely suck on offense. This guy needs to pressure the ball hard so that Pickett can pick the ball off with his instincts....part of what Smithen helped do to change the tide of last season. We're missing that I think. Siena's D went from among worst in the nation in the OOC to the best in MAAC play mainly because of Smithen.
Teams could be too comfortable against us with this lineup. I'm not sure we can stop anybody. Harris might be able to change that.
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Post by MTS on May 29, 2019 20:27:46 GMT -5
I kinda agree with KK. We need a little more for me to feel confident about this team. If they get Harris that'll go a long way towards easing my guard depth concerns. If he comes, he starts at the 2 or 3 - and the shooting challenged Camper goes to the bench. I also need to see some instant guaranteed offense coming off that bench that Richard would have provided. I don't see it right now. And then I there's the whole untested first time head coach thing. I have a feeling that Carm is either going to be a total disaster or the next Mark Few. There won't be any grey area there. I won't lie that I'd be more confident if JC was still coach and Walker and Richard were still with us. But they're not. So overall I really have no idea to expect with this team. But Pickett alone will keep them in contention no matter what else happens. Yeah, Pickett will keep the boat afloat but they need full crew to sail all the way to title town. I felt real good about things with Richard and Walker. Without them, I'm very nervous. I'm not sure we have enough scoring depth to make up for our so-so D. Harris could take away a lot of fear and maybe help replace Smithen's defensive energy. We have no super on the ball guy who can take the pressure off Pickett. Carey is probably just average on D and not a stopper. Camper can play the ball well but he doesn't force possession changes or block a lot of shots. We need a defensive playmaker who won't completely suck on offense. This guy needs to pressure the ball hard so that Pickett can pick the ball off with his instincts....part of what Smithen helped do to change the tide of last season. We're missing that I think.
Teams could be too comfortable against us with this lineup. I'm not sure we can stop anybody.
While I wish we had Richard and Walker the fact is Richard would've been coming off a bad injury and Walker is an unproven frosh who is probably 180 lbs soaking wet. Hopefully we can sign at least one more impact guy to the rotation. As far as the coach goes for Sienafan...either Mark Few or a disaster...um, that's a little insane. He's a question mark sure but he's a young and upcoming coach. Let's see what he does.
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Post by mike60 on May 29, 2019 20:29:07 GMT -5
How do you arrive at total disaster or Mark Few. Carm has a reputation as a good defensive coach already. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes early on,but he seems well organized and will probably do a passable job his first year. However if your expectation is that he will be the Mark Few of 2018 then you will be disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 20:34:13 GMT -5
How do you arrive at total disaster or Mark Few. Carm has a reputation as a good defensive coach already. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes early on,but he seems well organized and will probably do a passable job his first year. However if your expectation is that he will be the Mark Few of 2018 then you will be disappointed. I don't know whose idea it was to bench Smithen for the 1st half of the year..it could have been JC's for offense...but if it was Carm's input he's as much problem as he was solution last year. We don't really know that. The defense ended the year at a still bad 263rd nationwide even after Smithen brought it back from dead last in the nation. Maybe they were really a top 150 D the 2nd half of the year but the 1st half they were the worst defensive team in the nation.
'Credit' for the defense should be given with care.
Darwiche and Bayer playing over Smithen was costing Siena at least 4 ppg in scoring margin before even considering defensive fg%...I calculated it in January. There were as much poor decisions last year as there were good ones. I only hope that the bad ones were mostly JC.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 29, 2019 23:47:38 GMT -5
How do you arrive at total disaster or Mark Few. Carm has a reputation as a good defensive coach already. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes early on,but he seems well organized and will probably do a passable job his first year. However if your expectation is that he will be the Mark Few of 2018 then you will be disappointed. Only MTS is allowed to make any Siena/Gonzaga comparisons. You other people sound the fool trying to do it. 😛
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 29, 2019 23:50:24 GMT -5
How do you arrive at total disaster or Mark Few. Carm has a reputation as a good defensive coach already. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes early on,but he seems well organized and will probably do a passable job his first year. However if your expectation is that he will be the Mark Few of 2018 then you will be disappointed. Darwiche and Bayer playing over Smithen....
...,,cost us the MAAC Championship.
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Post by Sienafan on May 30, 2019 0:05:40 GMT -5
How do you arrive at total disaster or Mark Few. Carm has a reputation as a good defensive coach already. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes early on,but he seems well organized and will probably do a passable job his first year. However if your expectation is that he will be the Mark Few of 2018 then you will be disappointed. That was hyperbole. I didn't mean he would literally be just like Few and turn Siena into Gonzaga. I meant he could be the rare untested mid-major assistant that gets promoted and turns out to be a surprise great choice. A few guys at Butler and Xavier came up that way too when they were mid-majors.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 5:21:54 GMT -5
Funny - we ended the year surfing the mother of all waves and now our resident statistician is forecasting a tsunami - the half-life of "optimism" on this board is about 30 days! Where does all the newly voiced and thinly veiled negativity toward our new HC come from? The HC used to be the decision maker and the one who reaped the benefit of wins and the grief from losses; now we have to look back a year and postulate that early season defensive decisions were possibly made by an assistant - statisticians love to recast a data bank's focal point to support pre-conceived conclusions! I seem to remember discussions voicing concern over JC's "lack of a defensive game" when he took the helm...seems that the possibility that it took last year's team several games to adjust to a totally new WINNING coaching scheme has evaporated into the ether...
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 6:44:21 GMT -5
Darwiche and Bayer playing over Smithen....
...,,cost us the MAAC Championship. Not sure about that but it certainly put us in a bad position that ultimately hurt Siena’s seeding...and thus energy level in the tourney. Had Siena been the 1 seed...it’s possible that it did.
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Post by Tony on May 30, 2019 6:46:10 GMT -5
Funny - we ended the year surfing the mother of all waves and now our resident statistician is forecasting a tsunami - the half-life of "optimism" on this board is about 30 days! Where does all the newly voiced and thinly veiled negativity toward our new HC come from? The HC used to be the decision maker and the one who reaped the benefit of wins and the grief from losses; now we have to look back a year and postulate that early season defensive decisions were possibly made by an assistant - statisticians love to recast a data bank's focal point to support pre-conceived conclusions! I seem to remember discussions voicing concern over JC's "lack of a defensive game" when he took the helm...seems that the possibility that it took last year's team several games to adjust to a totally new WINNING coaching scheme has evaporated into the ether... KK is entitled to his opinion, I’m not saying he is wrong; he brings up some valid points. KK normally likes to be the contrarian. We certainly have question marks; time will tell if Carm has the answer to those questions I will say a wise man once said “I believe the standings generally go in order of PG.” Lets hope he is right!!! There's only a few all-around PGs in this league (defense/quickness/facilitating/shooting/scoring). I think Penn could be one of them. I believe the standings generally go in order of PG. Last year the standings went Robinson, Wyche, McGill, Wright. No surprise. If Penn puts up his HS numbers at Siena, he's a top 3 or 4 MAAC PG. Only McGill and Jordan can facilitate, defend, rebound, shoot, and score. Penn did all that in high school. Half the PGs in this league can't even shoot so if Siena has one of those few all-around guys....
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 6:47:12 GMT -5
Funny - we ended the year surfing the mother of all waves and now our resident statistician is forecasting a tsunami - the half-life of "optimism" on this board is about 30 days! Where does all the newly voiced and thinly veiled negativity toward our new HC come from? The HC used to be the decision maker and the one who reaped the benefit of wins and the grief from losses; now we have to look back a year and postulate that early season defensive decisions were possibly made by an assistant - statisticians love to recast a data bank's focal point to support pre-conceived conclusions! I seem to remember discussions voicing concern over JC's "lack of a defensive game" when he took the helm...seems that the possibility that it took last year's team several games to adjust to a totally new WINNING coaching scheme has evaporated into the ether... JC was not a defensive mastermind, no. If Carm brings more Cooley ball then JC ball, I look forward to a more complete coach than JC.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 6:50:53 GMT -5
Funny - we ended the year surfing the mother of all waves and now our resident statistician is forecasting a tsunami - the half-life of "optimism" on this board is about 30 days! Where does all the newly voiced and thinly veiled negativity toward our new HC come from? The HC used to be the decision maker and the one who reaped the benefit of wins and the grief from losses; now we have to look back a year and postulate that early season defensive decisions were possibly made by an assistant - statisticians love to recast a data bank's focal point to support pre-conceived conclusions! I seem to remember discussions voicing concern over JC's "lack of a defensive game" when he took the helm...seems that the possibility that it took last year's team several games to adjust to a totally new WINNING coaching scheme has evaporated into the ether... KK is entitled to his opinion, I’m not saying he is wrong; he brings up some valid points. KK normally likes to be the contrarian. We certainly have question marks; time will tell if Carm has the answer to those questions I will say a wise man once said “I believe the standings generally go in order of PG.” Lets hope he is right!!! There's only a few all-around PGs in this league (defense/quickness/facilitating/shooting/scoring). I think Penn could be one of them. I believe the standings generally go in order of PG. Last year the standings went Robinson, Wyche, McGill, Wright. No surprise. If Penn puts up his HS numbers at Siena, he's a top 3 or 4 MAAC PG. Only McGill and Jordan can facilitate, defend, rebound, shoot, and score. Penn did all that in high school. Half the PGs in this league can't even shoot so if Siena has one of those few all-around guys.... I still believe this. This is, of course, Siena’s #1 advantage. However, if he’s say not fully but mostly cancelled out by say a Stevie Jordan...it then comes down to who surrounds them.
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Post by james on May 30, 2019 7:04:11 GMT -5
Sincerely believe KK is right on concerning the make-up of the team in that we need one more difference maker to make the Saints a champion type team.Also very glad to see Mr.Pickett returning to Siena for this season.Could have been a disaster if not!! GO SAINTS!!
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Post by Tony on May 30, 2019 7:20:20 GMT -5
KK is entitled to his opinion, I’m not saying he is wrong; he brings up some valid points. KK normally likes to be the contrarian. We certainly have question marks; time will tell if Carm has the answer to those questions I will say a wise man once said “I believe the standings generally go in order of PG.” Lets hope he is right!!! I still believe this. This is, of course, Siena’s #1 advantage. However, if he’s say not fully but mostly cancelled out by say a Stevie Jordan...it then comes down to who surrounds them. And that my friend is the million dollar question!!! Listen we have all heard the reports on Carey and Burns. People I know and trust that are very close to program have told me both are very very good. But we have been fooled before ( anyone remember the hype on Patrick Cole?) GoldSaint thinks we have 3 of the top 10 players in conference, well if that's true Siena wins MAAC hands down. Just hard to put a finger on exactly how good Siena will be-- If Don and Elijah are what we hope them to be, Siena is in great shape, if either struggles, then not so good, if both struggle we in tough shape- much like Carm's coaching we wont know for sure until season starts
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 7:28:26 GMT -5
I still believe this. This is, of course, Siena’s #1 advantage. However, if he’s say not fully but mostly cancelled out by say a Stevie Jordan...it then comes down to who surrounds them. And that my friend is the million dollar question!!! Listen we have all heard the reports on Carey and Burns. People I know and trust that are very close to program have told me both are very very good. But we have been fooled before ( anyone remember the hype on Patrick Cole?) GoldSaint thinks we have 3 of the top 10 players in conference, well if that's true Siena wins MAAC hands down. Just hard to put a finger on exactly how good Siena will be-- If Don and Elijah are what we hope them to be, Siena is in great shape, if either struggles, then not so good, if both struggle we in tough shape- much like Carm's coaching we wont know for sure until season starts This is why I try to apply numbers estimates to try to quantify these things. Saying ‘good’ or ‘bad’ or ‘top’ are meaningless mostly substance free generalisms. Tell me things like Carey will have 20 more steals this year than his freshman year...then I’m listening cause we just got 20 more possessions at the expense of our opponents.
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