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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Apr 24, 2019 8:46:01 GMT -5
If Pickett gets invites/workouts, gets good advice, and is able to start a successful professional career earlier than anyone imagined, I'll give him a standing ovation. But for a little macro perspective on what he's up against doing so this year... (the total # is 233, but 175 are from college/institutions) Also, that total of 233 does not include seniors that just graduated. There are what, 62 kids drafted? Anyone who is drafted has seriously earned it. I'll root for Pickett to get the invites he wants in May, root for him to get the feedback he needs to make an informed decision and root like hell for him whether he comes back to Siena or seeks a professional career. I agree it's worth pointing out that this doesn't include graduating seniors, but TR's tweet that you quoted literally says there are 60 picks in the draft :-)
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 24, 2019 9:11:15 GMT -5
Heard Lamb pulled his name from the draft..... Pickett's game translates better than his....just sayin'. No doubt. Lamb will have a tough time matching up with 3s in the NBA. He was probably told that and expect him, whether his coach likes it or not, to spend more time on the perimeter after he tries to improve his handle and shot.
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Post by Quackman on Apr 24, 2019 9:11:36 GMT -5
Also, that total of 233 does not include seniors that just graduated. There are what, 62 kids drafted? Anyone who is drafted has seriously earned it. I'll root for Pickett to get the invites he wants in May, root for him to get the feedback he needs to make an informed decision and root like hell for him whether he comes back to Siena or seeks a professional career. I agree it's worth pointing out that this doesn't include graduating seniors, but TR's tweet that you quoted literally says there are 60 picks in the draft :-) Yeah, couldn't see the tweets on my computer and thought there were 31 teams for some reason.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 24, 2019 9:16:38 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm scared. Pickett is an extremely unique player whose only real long term weakness I see is quickness. I'm afraid some team might decide to latch on to that potential this year. I'd be very happy for him, but he's irreplaceable. We re all holding our breathe. I honestly don’t think he’s close to being ready....right now. Could he improve his handle and get his 3 pt shot up to 40%? Maybe. Might take a year. Maybe two. I still think going this year would be a huge mistake by him. I could see being taken 2nd round, not making the team and riding the bench in the G-league for years. He’s better off getting his degree and letting them judge the 22 yo version of himself, not the 19 yo one.
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Post by MTS on Apr 24, 2019 9:36:04 GMT -5
The elite G league camp is 40 players and the combine is 60 players. (Top 5 guys usually skip it) Invitations go out next week. If Jalen doesn’t get an invitation there he’s coming back for sure.
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Post by IndianSaint on Apr 24, 2019 9:38:25 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm scared. Pickett is an extremely unique player whose only real long term weakness I see is quickness. I'm afraid some team might decide to latch on to that potential this year. I'd be very happy for him, but he's irreplaceable. We re all holding our breathe. I honestly don’t think he’s close to being ready....right now. Could he improve his handle and get his 3 pt shot up to 40%? Maybe. Might take a year. Maybe two. I still think going this year would be a huge mistake by him. I could see being taken 2nd round, not making the team and riding the bench in the G-league for years. He’s better off getting his degree and letting them judge the 22 yo version on himself, not the 19 yo one. I have faith that Jalen is smart enough to know the difference between being drafted in the 2nd round and getting some sort of idea of a guarantee by that team versus going 2nd round and being released or moved to G-League with no guarantees after that. While I know Jalen has said he’d consider staying in draft for 2nd round pick, I also believe he won’t go that route unless he feels comfortable with what that actually means. If trans can’t answer his concerns with 2nd round I’m thinking he pulls his name, comes back and works on the needed areas of his game.
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Post by musicman on Apr 24, 2019 10:09:14 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm scared. Pickett is an extremely unique player whose only real long term weakness I see is quickness. I'm afraid some team might decide to latch on to that potential this year. I'd be very happy for him, but he's irreplaceable. We re all holding our breathe. I honestly don’t think he’s close to being ready....right now. Could he improve his handle and get his 3 pt shot up to 40%? Maybe. Might take a year. Maybe two. I still think going this year would be a huge mistake by him. I could see being taken 2nd round, not making the team and riding the bench in the G-league for years. He’s better off getting his degree and letting them judge the 22 yo version on himself, not the 19 yo one. Exactly, every word you wrote. He's a great prospect but not a finished product. The 22 year old version might have a real shot.
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Post by $cott on Apr 24, 2019 10:23:21 GMT -5
We re all holding our breathe. I honestly don’t think he’s close to being ready....right now. Could he improve his handle and get his 3 pt shot up to 40%? Maybe. Might take a year. Maybe two. I still think going this year would be a huge mistake by him. I could see being taken 2nd round, not making the team and riding the bench in the G-league for years. He’s better off getting his degree and letting them judge the 22 yo version on himself, not the 19 yo one. Exactly, every word you wrote. He's a great prospect but not a finished product. The 22 year old version might have a real shot. On the other side of the coin, NBA teams are all about potential. They see a freshman who has nice size, can run the pick and roll, and just learned to play point guard on the job while putting up amazing numbers. At this point Pickett is what he is plus everything he could develop into. Every year he will have to live up to that potential development for his ceiling to remain as high. In some ways now could be his best chance of getting drafted if one team falls in love with his potential. An injury or a sophomore slump and he is off everyone's radar and his only path to the NBA would be to try and make a summer league roster after his senior year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 10:25:48 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm scared. Pickett is an extremely unique player whose only real long term weakness I see is quickness. I'm afraid some team might decide to latch on to that potential this year. I'd be very happy for him, but he's irreplaceable. Do we really have any idea how quick he is? All I know is he can slow it down out of necessity.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 24, 2019 10:29:53 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm scared. Pickett is an extremely unique player whose only real long term weakness I see is quickness. I'm afraid some team might decide to latch on to that potential this year. I'd be very happy for him, but he's irreplaceable. We re all holding our breathe. I honestly don’t think he’s close to being ready....right now. Could he improve his handle and get his 3 pt shot up to 40%? Maybe. Might take a year. Maybe two. I still think going this year would be a huge mistake by him. I could see being taken 2nd round, not making the team and riding the bench in the G-league for years. He’s better off getting his degree and letting them judge the 22 yo version of himself, not the 19 yo one. I’ve been saying this for a week now. He’s not NBA ready and the G league is basketball purgatory. Nothing wrong with another year or two in college. He’s just a kid with a ton of potential who needs to work on his game. The two free passes are a great tool. Not that Jalen is Lillard or McCollum but both came from lower conferences and both played all 4 years. There’s nothing wrong with that model. I’d love to Jalen in the NBA and I wish him the best, I just hope he makes all the right decisions that will give him best opportunity to reach his ultimate goal.
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Post by hockeyguy on Apr 24, 2019 10:48:23 GMT -5
I can save Jalen some time and effort. The NBA is 30 teams of 14 players each, that is the 420 best players on the planet. Some get injured, some leave so let's put the number at 450 total. Since he is not "a five, nor a four, nor a three", and it would take a miracle for him to be considered an NBA "two" he is down to being at 19, one of the 90 best point guards on earth. 30 guys have starting jobs with big contracts. They all have "relief guys" for 10 minutes a game, they have nice contracts too. . So 90 - 30 - 30 leaves 30 spots at the far end of 30 benches competing with every other point guard around the world without a contract. That is where Jalen "stands" with the NBA. Deflate the ego,come back and put in two years working hard on the things he is not great at, or at least in one aspect one thing not even "good" at (getting to rim on his own) and maybe, maybe he gets a great seat for every game for a bottom half NBA team in a couple years. Just my opinion.
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Post by MTS on Apr 24, 2019 11:10:53 GMT -5
No matter what happens (and I fully expect and hope Jalen will be back) no one player is bigger than the program. We may be a "players program" but means collectively.
He's not replaceable for this year, that's 100% correct.
It does seem like we're snakebitten...After a tough 8 years... I mean we go 17-16 have a "nice" season (but don't win anything of substance) and we lose our first year head coach and potentially best player to the NBA after one year? Are you kidding, me?
But we can control only what we can control....and that's signing 3 good players now.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Apr 24, 2019 11:11:49 GMT -5
Have to like the”new” rule regarding the draft ... look back at all the talent that bought into the hype and the accolades from agents ... and winding up pissing away their college careers ... players can now test the waters rather then drowning in the deep end of the draft pool
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Post by Tony on Apr 24, 2019 11:14:48 GMT -5
The elite G league camp is 40 players and the combine is 60 players. (Top 5 guys usually skip it) Invitations go out next week. If Jalen doesn’t get an invitation there he’s coming back for sure. He has to get an invitation to the combine- after all Jackson Hoy had him 27th best prospect and Siena Soup guaranteed Jalen would be a mid first rounder
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Post by greenblood on Apr 24, 2019 12:33:07 GMT -5
I can save Jalen some time and effort. The NBA is 30 teams of 14 players each, that is the 420 best players on the planet. Some get injured, some leave so let's put the number at 450 total. Since he is not "a five, nor a four, nor a three", and it would take a miracle for him to be considered an NBA "two" he is down to being at 19, one of the 90 best point guards on earth. 30 guys have starting jobs with big contracts. They all have "relief guys" for 10 minutes a game, they have nice contracts too. . So 90 - 30 - 30 leaves 30 spots at the far end of 30 benches competing with every other point guard around the world without a contract. That is where Jalen "stands" with the NBA. Deflate the ego,come back and put in two years working hard on the things he is not great at, or at least in one aspect one thing not even "good" at (getting to rim on his own) and maybe, maybe he gets a great seat for every game for a bottom half NBA team in a couple years. Just my opinion. The NBA scouts will bear out the same information I believe when all is said and done.
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