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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 22, 2019 0:18:41 GMT -5
Canisius had 2 guys test he water last spring, T. Molson and I.Reese. Both are no longer with the team they were with prior to testing the water, less than a year later. Molson probably told to get to a higher conference and he did, which is probably what Pickett will hear. Reese figured he was ready to go play pro some where already. It's the beginning of the end of JP at Siena. Both are headcases and neither one was a legitimate NBA prospect. Players are doing this more and more and look at the attention Jalen got last year. He might be gone after two years if he blows up next year sure. It will take a first round grade. Molson is a headcase why? Because he plays for Canisius? He did exactly what Pickett is doing now, and a year later is going to play at the BCS level. Think that’s a coincidence? Scouts aren’t impressed that he was a dominant player in a horrible league. They want to see him, for more than a combine weekend, against top level talent. Molson played the way the scouts, not his coaches, wanted him to this year. Shooting way too many 3s when he knows he’s not a good shooter. So TEAM suffers, as the player tries to upgrade his “supposed” NBA potential. All this NBA crap is bad for this program. Wait and see.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 22, 2019 3:05:39 GMT -5
BTW, Chicken Noodle Paterniani guarantees Pickett will get drafted mid-first round this year. Guess we better sign another PG
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Post by Tony on Apr 22, 2019 4:10:14 GMT -5
BTW, Chicken Noodle Paterniani guarantees Pickett will get drafted mid-first round this year. Guess we better sign another PG Oh No if Soupy is saying that it must be true..LOL.. I wish Jalen nothing but the best!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 5:24:44 GMT -5
Should the most likely occur, i.e., Jalen comes back, I think it's a huge win for him AND Siena - Jalen is a very smart kid with a realistic goal and he will surely grab any thing he learns and run with it to increase the likelihood of making the jump down the road. Kevin Huerter did exactly the same thing following his first year at Maryland and elevated his status to a first round pick after one more year at Maryland.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Apr 22, 2019 7:45:25 GMT -5
Until they tell him he is an 80% chance to be a 1st Rounder he should stay at Siena...even if that means graduating from Siena if they keep telling him your not a lock to go 1st Round.
Because there are no guarantees, no automatic signing bonuses, not much of any advantage at all when your a 2nd Round pick in the NBA, and certainly no financial advantage vs. making the team vs. a guy who is invited post draft to come to camp, my advice would be to stay relevant for as long as you can at the level you are currently at.
Keep dominating at this level until they tell him he would get drafted in the 1st Round.
Be a Damion Lilliard from Weber State. Not one of the thousands of kids who transfer up, have to sit out a year before becoming just one of the thousands who dont dominate at the Power 5 level and never get a sniff at the NBA. All that can happen by doing this is having your weaknesses more exposed, wiping out any chance of getting to the NBA.
Its very hard to be considered to being one of the Top 30 guys in the world every year, regardless of where you play.
If you have the talent the NBA will find you. But having the opportunity to display this talent has so many factors involved as well....coach, teammates, winning program, reaching the NCAA Tournament, etc....
In my own opinion there is way too much risk in transferring up, sitting out a year where out of sight out of mind happens, and then playing with guys at the Power 5 level who are fighting you tooth and nail for that same NBA dream rather than staying with a team, a culture, a coach, and teammates who you already know, at a place where you know that you can succeed, at a time where you know you wont have to sit for a full year and risk becoming irrelevant. And at the same time if needed be having that time to mature in both mind and body to be NBA ready while getting your college degree and being considered one of your schools all time bests that can put you on an easier track to succeed in life as well.
Though few in number overall either way, my guess is that you see alot more guys from small schools that play in the NBA that started at small schools and either left early to go pro or graduated from that small school than you do players who started at small schools, transferred up, sat out a year and then made the NBA.
If they tell you your a lock to getting drafted in the 1st Round, by all means go without a second of hesitation. It will change your life regardless of the outcome.
If they tell you that your not a sure fire 1st Rounder and that you need to transfer up to get in the NBA, I would not listen to them and stay at Siena for all the reasons above.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Apr 22, 2019 7:55:30 GMT -5
Once Siena gets to the Dance Jalen will be able to showcase what he’s got to the world
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 22, 2019 8:33:54 GMT -5
Just watching Portland ... Lillard from Weber St and McCollum from Lehigh are proof that you can get to the NBA from lower level programs/conferences.
It’s a far more risky move to transfer, sit, increase the level of competition and worry about how your game will translate at the next level.
Pickett is currently garnering a lot of national attention while at Siena. He just needs to keep working, improving and dominating at this level.
Is he a NBA caliber player? Well that remains to be seen. If he’s good enough he’ll get his shot!
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Post by Quackman on Apr 22, 2019 9:11:21 GMT -5
I was actually surprised that he waited this long to declare. Stupid not to kick the tires a bit and see what the interest is. If he is a legit 1st rounder, I hope he goes for it and succeeds. If not, hope he gets the feedback he is looking for and gets back to work.
I have no idea if Pickett is a future NBA caliber player or not. I'm thrilled for him that he is getting the attention he is receiving. He has the size, strength and basketball IQ to play in the NBA but I think comparisons with him and Ja Morant are off, he does not Morant's freakish athleticism.
to bbfan, I am pretty sure Reese was kicked off the team, he didn't leave by choice. Not sure what Molson's deal was. I was really impressed with him as a freshman, less so as a soph.
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Post by MTS on Apr 22, 2019 9:58:51 GMT -5
Remember when Lillard and McCollum were in college you could not entry the draft and go back to school I believe. They probably would've tested it too.
From what I understand Jalen has told Carm he's coming back this is just to get feedback. He's not a selfish guy - he's not going to change the way he plays. This was always the plan the reason it took until now to announce it was Jalen was still recovering from mono.
Jalen will be 100% back at Siena unless he's a first round pick which is highly highly unlikely now. But all it takes it one whacky GM so you never know.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 22, 2019 10:34:35 GMT -5
Remember when Lillard and McCollum were in college you could not entry the draft and go back to school I believe. They probably would've tested it too. From what I understand Jalen has told Carm he's coming back this is just to get feedback. He's not a selfish guy - he's not going to change the way he plays. This was always the plan the reason it took until now to announce it was Jalen was still recovering from mono. Jalen will be 100% back at Siena unless he's a first round pick which is highly highly unlikely now. But all it takes it one whacky GM so you never know. Not sure how you know him so well? If a scout tells him to “do this” to improve your chances of making your NBA dream come true, you’re going to do it. Like Molson did last year and it backfired on him.
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Post by saints22 on Apr 22, 2019 22:12:44 GMT -5
I was actually surprised that he waited this long to declare. Stupid not to kick the tires a bit and see what the interest is. If he is a legit 1st rounder, I hope he goes for it and succeeds. If not, hope he gets the feedback he is looking for and gets back to work. I have no idea if Pickett is a future NBA caliber player or not. I'm thrilled for him that he is getting the attention he is receiving. He has the size, strength and basketball IQ to play in the NBA but I think comparisons with him and Ja Morant are off, he does not Morant's freakish athleticism. to bbfan, I am pretty sure Reese was kicked off the team, he didn't leave by choice. Not sure what Molson's deal was. I was really impressed with him as a freshman, less so as a sophomore. No offense to Jalen at all, but I just don’t understand the talk about the NBA. He’s just finished his freshman year, so he’s what, eighteen years old? He had a terrific season in a terrible league. He dominated. God bless him, and we are very, very lucky to have him. But did you watch the NCAA Tournament? Did you see the guards in those games? There were a BUNCH of them who were absolutely incredible. And as the tournament progressed, those guys were still incredible, but against increasingly better and top-level competition. How does Jalen compare to the guards in the tournament, especially the underclassmen, a number of whom have declared for the draft? It certainly doesn’t hurt to get opinions from NBA personnel. Has he had any discussions with Prosper? Do they think he will ever have a legitimate chance to make the league? If the answer is “yes” or even “maybe”, that would tell him a lot. I agree with the poster who advocated staying in school for four years to continue working on all aspects of his game, and to try to maintain his high profile. Getting a degree is also important, just in case the NBA thing doesn’t work out, because the odds against it working out are astronomical. I doubt that any of us have a clue about what Jalen’s chances are of making it to the NBA (I know I don’t). But I would think his chances will increase the longer he can be productive at the collegiate level. Four years at the All-MAAC level, a Player of the Year or two (or three), and a degree would be a compelling resume.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Apr 22, 2019 22:46:24 GMT -5
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Post by IndianSaint on Apr 23, 2019 7:07:55 GMT -5
Wow, ranked 5th in this person’s opinion. IMO, it’s good that there’s interest in Jalen. It’s also good he’s going to have a chance to either showcase his skills and/or receive valuable feedback on areas to improve so as to improve his chances of hopefully making it to the NBA. For every opinion that he’ll get drafted this year or next year there’s probably equal or more opinions that he might stick around all four years before he chooses the NBA or overseas professional ball. In any case, it’s going to be fun to watch him and the team. Teams will be questioning the competition Siena faced and if Pickett has enough quicks and athleticism to execute against NBA point guards. He'll be one of the most interesting prospects to watch during NBA combine scrimmages, assuming he's invited to participate. An early guess would predict him returning for a bigger sophomore season that leads to more first-round interest in 2020.
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Post by nolesaint on Apr 23, 2019 7:24:15 GMT -5
I hope it goes well for him. That being said, without tearing him down, I think there are a few areas where he is seriously deficient from an NBA performance standpoint. A couple of them can be corrected at least one cannot in my opinion. But again I truly do wish him the best.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 23, 2019 8:13:15 GMT -5
Wow, ranked 5th in this person’s opinion. IMO, it’s good that there’s interest in Jalen. It’s also good he’s going to have a chance to either showcase his skills and/or receive valuable feedback on areas to improve so as to improve his chances of hopefully making it to the NBA. For every opinion that he’ll get drafted this year or next year there’s probably equal or more opinions that he might stick around all four years before he chooses the NBA or overseas professional ball. In any case, it’s going to be fun to watch him and the team. Teams will be questioning the competition Siena faced and if Pickett has enough quicks and athleticism to execute against NBA point guards. He'll be one of the most interesting prospects to watch during NBA combine scrimmages, assuming he's invited to participate. An early guess would predict him returning for a bigger sophomore season that leads to more first-round interest in 2020. No way this guy has ever seen him play. Maybe on tape, and I’d love to know what game. He only heard of JP thru his good buddy Jackson. These guys are looking for the secret star out there. Smaller the school, better they look. I’ll let the real NBA scouts figure it out. JP goes heads up against that kid from Auburn, he’s in for a long day, and he’s 9th??
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