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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 17:00:50 GMT -5
What do you want him to say “I’m going to sign the first three guys I see at Washington Park” Just saying. I know we have Pickett and Carey and that's great and all...but it ain't enough...especially if you want to play faster. We haven't exactly heard of Siena involved with a lot of guards.... He doesn't explicitly say he needs guards here... I think it would be a mistake not to go after 2 more guards for next year. You never want to be hurting for guard depth in this league. Never. It's like rule #1 in MAAC recruiting. As of right now, if either Pickett or Carey get injured...you're potentially screwed.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 1, 2019 17:15:28 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn’t want to tip his hand in the paper.
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Post by Tony on Apr 1, 2019 17:42:19 GMT -5
I wouldn’t worry about it too much – the first week and half was all about shoring up returning players and incoming recruits. Media requests, filling out his staff etc. Just because you haven’t heard about any guards doesn’t mean there isn’t any. I guarantee you there are. Look for more info to come out in next week or so
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Post by billmurray on Apr 1, 2019 17:54:17 GMT -5
I wouldn’t worry about it too much – the first week and half was all about shoring up returning players and incoming recruits. Media requests, filling out his staff etc. Just because you haven’t heard about any guards doesn’t mean there isn’t any. I guarantee you there are. Look for more info to come out in next week or so Signing period starts 4/14 or 15 and goes to 5/15. I’m sure the necessary players will be added.
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Post by Sienafan on Apr 1, 2019 22:51:11 GMT -5
What do you want him to say “I’m going to sign the first three guys I see at Washington Park” Just saying. I know we have Pickett and Carey and that's great and all...but it ain't enough...especially if you want to play faster. We haven't exactly heard of Siena involved with a lot of guards.... He doesn't explicitly say he needs guards here... I think it would be a mistake not to go after 2 more guards for next year. You never want to be hurting for guard depth in this league. Never. It's like rule #1 in MAAC recruiting. As of right now, if either Pickett or Carey get injured...you're potentially screwed. When JC was hired you were worried about guards then too. I told you JC would get you some guards. And boy did he ever. Carm will deliver the goods too. Everyone the prior staff was involved with is still in play - because he was the guy for the prior staff. I know you are shitting shiva because we lost Walker. But there will be someone new. Have faith.
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Post by indian82 on Apr 2, 2019 6:01:57 GMT -5
Just saying. I know we have Pickett and Carey and that's great and all...but it ain't enough...especially if you want to play faster. We haven't exactly heard of Siena involved with a lot of guards.... He doesn't explicitly say he needs guards here... I think it would be a mistake not to go after 2 more guards for next year. You never want to be hurting for guard depth in this league. Never. It's like rule #1 in MAAC recruiting. As of right now, if either Pickett or Carey get injured...you're potentially screwed. When JC was hired you were worried about guards then too. I told you JC would get you some guards. And boy did he ever. Carm will deliver the goods too. Everyone the prior staff was involved with is still in play - because he was the guy for the prior staff. I know you are shitting shiva because we lost Walker. But there will be someone new. Have faith. Shitting shiva. lol .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 6:46:22 GMT -5
Just saying. I know we have Pickett and Carey and that's great and all...but it ain't enough...especially if you want to play faster. We haven't exactly heard of Siena involved with a lot of guards.... He doesn't explicitly say he needs guards here... I think it would be a mistake not to go after 2 more guards for next year. You never want to be hurting for guard depth in this league. Never. It's like rule #1 in MAAC recruiting. As of right now, if either Pickett or Carey get injured...you're potentially screwed. When JC was hired you were worried about guards then too. I told you JC would get you some guards. And boy did he ever. Carm will deliver the goods too. Everyone the prior staff was involved with is still in play - because he was the guy for the prior staff. I know you are shitting shiva because we lost Walker. But there will be someone new. Have faith. Not just Walker....Richard too.
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Post by Sienafan on Apr 2, 2019 7:59:05 GMT -5
When JC was hired you were worried about guards then too. I told you JC would get you some guards. And boy did he ever. Carm will deliver the goods too. Everyone the prior staff was involved with is still in play - because he was the guy for the prior staff. I know you are shitting shiva because we lost Walker. But there will be someone new. Have faith. Shitting shiva. lol . That's the first time the autocorrect substituted a curse word. Bad Phone! And not wearing my glasses is why I missed it.
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Post by Sienafan on Apr 2, 2019 8:05:44 GMT -5
When JC was hired you were worried about guards then too. I told you JC would get you some guards. And boy did he ever. Carm will deliver the goods too. Everyone the prior staff was involved with is still in play - because he was the guy for the prior staff. I know you are shitting shiva because we lost Walker. But there will be someone new. Have faith. Not just Walker....Richard too. Don't worry old chum. Carm is gonna score you some guards/wings. They gotta get another 6'6 type who they can sell playing time at the 3 alongside Pickett and Carey. Either that or score a smaller guy and shift Carey to the 3. Only way they're going to get a stud. No big time player is signing up to sit behind Pickett and Carey for 3 years.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 2, 2019 8:41:39 GMT -5
Saw back in Jan we offered a 6 5 sg / sf out of Brooklyn Kadary Richmond, lot of solid offers, haven’t seen much if anything discussed about him on the board. Looks like his recruiting is really picking up. Any information? Could replace Walker or plenty of pt to offer or possibly start at 2 or 3.
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 2, 2019 8:53:58 GMT -5
WE had a brief exchange about him a few weeks ago - looks like he has a bunch of major offers. Lets see what happens though
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 9:34:01 GMT -5
Not just Walker....Richard too. Don't worry old chum. Carm is gonna score you some guards/wings. They gotta get another 6'6 type who they can sell playing time at the 3 alongside Pickett and Carey. Either that or score a smaller guy and shift Carey to the 3. Only way they're going to get a stud. No big time player is signing up to sit behind Pickett and Carey for 3 years. You and I have long disagreed about the thinking that 2 more guards have to sit in the first place. I think there is adequate PT available for 4 guards to all play 20+ mins...even with Pickett and Carey playing 30. Darwiche hasn't yet shown that he can be relied upon even in spot time. Without Smithen and even Degnan's defensive impacts, there's not yet a guarantee the defense will even be as good this year as last. Siena needs some perimeter defenders who ideally can also have a chance to be all around players. And with just Pickett, Carey, and Seymour as proven perimeter scorers...Siena may not be able to just outscore teams either. Right now, Siena may only be the equivalent of a top 220 type team. And considering they are at 267th this year...that's already accounting for significant improvement. That may still be enough for top 5 in a down MAAC but it's not the 'glory and riches beyond which we've always dreamed of'. Coaches need to find some difference makers now or we may have to wait yet another year for title town. All I'm saying.
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Post by Tony on Apr 2, 2019 9:50:43 GMT -5
KK I see things much differently - I’m not convinced we need difference makers, we have 5 starters. And no way can we play 4 guards with Pickett and Carey getting 30+ a piece. Other than special occasions Manny isn’t playing the four. We need one solid guard that can play. And one big that can rebound- neither one needs to be a difference maker, they do need to be solid, and capable of contributing immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 10:04:59 GMT -5
KK I see things much differently - I’m not convinced we need difference makers, we have 5 starters. And no way can we play 4 guards with Pickett and Carey getting 30+ a piece. Other than special occasions Manny isn’t playing the four. We need one solid guard that can play. And one big that can rebound- neither one needs to be a difference maker, they do need to be solid, and capable of contributing immediately. Who can provide us with PF type contributions if Burns is our starting center? Camper and Sutherland. That's it. Burns and Friday will have to man the center...no guarantee that Young will be ready. And if Burns shifts to the PF...then you need to rely and Friday and Young even more. I think Friday is best kept to 10-15 MPG. Need to preserve the depth and not over extend those interior guys. Right now, it's just Seymour and Ratliff at the 3. That's great and all but greatly lacking on D and on the boards from that position. Also, 'attack and finish' doesn't apply to either of those guys as they rely on the jump shot. Pickett, right now, is the only proven defensive playmaker on the team from a forcing turnovers and blocking shots standpoint. Last year, you could throw Smithen out on the ball and expect him to be only a small dropoff Pickett's rates in those categories...while also drawing charges and majorly impacting the game defensively. Now? We don't have that luxury. Carey has potential but he hasn't shown Smithen level defense yet. This team is still greatly flawed as it stands now, and needs improving. It's just how I see it. It was one thing with Richard and Walker providing that add'l ballhandling and perimeter punch. They had a chance then. However, that's gone now. Now, Siena is not a team that's going to be able to put pressure on teams consistently on either side of the ball without more help. They need more help. <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.319999999999936px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_80413969" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_12510302" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 119px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59784084" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.319999999999936" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.32px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1057px; top: 119px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_63206042" scrolling="no"></iframe> Not enough guards, not enough defense, not enough shooting depth. There's immediate work to be done.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Apr 2, 2019 10:11:06 GMT -5
Don't worry old chum. Carm is gonna score you some guards/wings. They gotta get another 6'6 type who they can sell playing time at the 3 alongside Pickett and Carey. Either that or score a smaller guy and shift Carey to the 3. Only way they're going to get a stud. No big time player is signing up to sit behind Pickett and Carey for 3 years. You and I have long disagreed about the thinking that 2 more guards have to sit in the first place. I think there is adequate PT available for 4 guards to all play 20+ mins...even with Pickett and Carey playing 30. Darwiche hasn't yet shown that he can be relied upon even in spot time. Without Smithen and even Degnan's defensive impacts, there's not yet a guarantee the defense will even be as good this year as last. Siena needs some perimeter defenders who ideally can also have a chance to be all around players. And with just Pickett, Carey, and Seymour as proven perimeter scorers...Siena may not be able to just outscore teams either. Right now, Siena may only be the equivalent of a top 220 type team. And considering they are at 267th this year...that's already accounting for significant improvement. That may still be enough for top 5 in a down MAAC but it's not the 'glory and riches beyond which we've always dreamed of'. Coaches need to find some difference makers now or we may have to wait yet another year for title town. All I'm saying. I mean, I think it depends pretty heavily on what Carey and Burns are. If Carey is a top 10 player in the league (which I think is certainly in the range of outcomes) and Burns is a top 10 player in the league (Fisher was, and the reports are that Burns is better), this team is far different than if Carey is an above average starter and Burns is a downgrade from Fisher. If Pickett, Carey, and Burns are all “elite” MAAC players, then it’s hard to see Siena not being a top 150 team and a title contender. You add in the elite defender glue guy type in Camper, the high level floor spacer in Seymour and there’s a starting 5 that’s pretty darn good. And who knows what else is out there. Emmitt Holt, if he returns to his 2016-17 form, would wreck the MAAC. He’s a guy who multiple people have said is an option for Siena. We could upgrade the 4 spot with Falzon over Seymour. We could add a grad transfer guard who can give minutes or get a freshman who could play rotation minutes. And that’s not even factoring in anything you get fro Sammy Friday, Luke Sutherland, or Jimmy Ratliff. You are right in saying we probably need another guard. But Siena already has the best player in the MAAC, and has what is being framed by the team as a “Big 3” with Don and Elijah that has a ceiling of being 3 top-10 players in the league. I think they’d be able to score a lot better with that trio, and they should be fine defensively as long as Pickett & Camper play big minutes and Carey isn’t a turnstile.
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