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Post by gorvy on Feb 11, 2019 19:24:13 GMT -5
KK you don't mention Camper very much. For games played he is the 2nd or 3rd leading rebounder; 1st in offensive rebounds; is certainly a decent defender. His major flaw is he can't shoot foul shots. I don't understand how that can't be fixed. I've watched him in a couple of games and he certainly has better form than Shaq. As a matter of fact it's not terrible at all. It just doesn't go in the basket. . Unfortunately his form is not consistent. Not sure if it’s concentration but it seems like it could be fixed with repetition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 19:31:11 GMT -5
Camper is just as important to this team from a possession standpoint as well because of his rebounding...and he's also fairly efficient in his scoring because of how much he's at the FT line. Unfortunately, just like in HS, he misses too many.
In the short term, I think a Smithen offensive bump would do more for this team than if it were Camper because of this. Because when Smithen attacks, he's more likely to knock down the FTs.
Smithen is the kind of guy who could score 15 pts on 5 FGA with none of them being threes. He scored 16 on 9 shots vs Rider and he missed 6 of them. Possessions where he attacks the rim usually end in some kind of points..one way or the other.
Last year, he actually had 6 double digit scoring games:
11 pts on 6 shots 11 pts on 5 shots 18 pts on 9 shots 10 pts on 5 shots 16 pts on 7 shots 11 pts on 9 shots
This is real good stuff. If he gets it going, he helps the team big time with this type of efficiency and his high FT %.. Camper is similar but 2 missed FTs are still a lost possession...and doesn't help the team. He has to make them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 19:53:44 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me. I want to win every game but our margin for error is still very thin. We're winning all these close games and that's great but eventually one won't go our way. I just hope that is in the regular season and not in the tournament. Right now I'll gladly sign for 4-2 - that puts us at 17-14, 12-6 and should put us in the top 3 at least and maybe better. First things first...beat Iona!! Go Saints!! Michael! You of all people speaking of one getting away. Words I thought I’d never read.
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Post by musicman on Feb 11, 2019 21:50:52 GMT -5
Camper is just as important to this team from a possession standpoint as well because of his rebounding...and he's also fairly efficient in his scoring because of how much he's at the FT line. Unfortunately, just like in HS, he misses too many. In the short term, I think a Smithen offensive bump would do more for this team than if it were Camper because of this. Because when Smithen attacks, he's more likely to knock down the FTs. Smithen is the kind of guy who could score 15 pts on 5 FGA with none of them being threes. He scored 16 on 9 shots vs Rider and he missed 6 of them. Possessions where he attacks the rim usually end in some kind of points..one way or the other. Last year, he actually had 6 double digit scoring games: 11 pts on 6 shots 11 pts on 5 shots 18 pts on 9 shots 10 pts on 5 shots 16 pts on 7 shots 11 pts on 9 shots This is real good stuff. If he gets it going, he helps the team big time with this type of efficiency and his high FT %.. Camper is similar but 2 missed FTs are still a lost possession...and doesn't help the team. He has to make them.
Smithen's efficiency certainly can't be overstated. He has made himself one of the players that's indispensable to the team,especially at the end of these close games. As much as I have loved Camper's play this year with all the pluses he brings to the team, I'm surprised his shooting at the line hasn't already cost us a couple of games. I've been waiting for JC to take him out in the last 2 minutes of some of these squeakers but who do you put in there? Losing one from the foul line in the regular season isn't quite the same as the "one and done" situation of the tournament. It's going to be interesting. And nerve-racking!!
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Post by hockeyguy on Feb 11, 2019 23:30:30 GMT -5
Iona is going to be angrier than a shaken hornets nest, but I think Siena can take them at home. To me the game to keep an eye on is the Griff's at their place. Even so, if we lost that one, that would still make me 11-2 in the last 13. I don't recall seeing any of you publicly being that bold. This TEAM, lead by an outstanding senior, with a freshman budding star can beat anyone, anywhere.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 12, 2019 6:08:41 GMT -5
Umm I bet a year off the board on this team lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 7:42:47 GMT -5
Iona is going to be angrier than a shaken hornets nest, but I think Siena can take them at home. To me the game to keep an eye on is the Griff's at their place. Even so, if we lost that one, that would still make me 11-2 in the last 13. I don't recall seeing any of you publicly being that bold. This TEAM, lead by an outstanding senior, with a freshman budding star can beat anyone, anywhere. We’ll see about your last sentence come NCAA tournament time.
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 12, 2019 8:47:11 GMT -5
KK you don't mention Camper very much. For games played he is the 2nd or 3rd leading rebounder; 1st in offensive rebounds; is certainly a decent defender. His major flaw is he can't shoot foul shots. I don't understand how that can't be fixed. I've watched him in a couple of games and he certainly has better form than Shaq. As a matter of fact it's not terrible at all. It just doesn't go in the basket. . Unfortunately his form is not consistent. Not sure if it’s concentration but it seems like it could be fixed with repetition. the other thing I notice that Manny does on his FT shot is he is very rapt up in spinning the ball off his hands very rapidly...…………..it needs to be more natural & not forced because too much and your shot ends up hitting the back iron or even deeper which is what he most commonly has done...…………...he just needs to keep at it in between games and try to find a comfortable rhythm where he can have a better success rate...………….
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 12, 2019 8:53:19 GMT -5
Iona is going to be angrier than a shaken hornets nest, but I think Siena can take them at home. To me the game to keep an eye on is the Griff's at their place. Even so, if we lost that one, that would still make me 11-2 in the last 13. I don't recall seeing any of you publicly being that bold. This TEAM, lead by an outstanding senior, with a freshman budding star can beat anyone, anywhere. We’ll see about your last sentence come NCAA tournament time. I am assuming he meant any MAAC team
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 9:13:35 GMT -5
We’ll see about your last sentence come NCAA tournament time. I am assuming he meant any MAAC team Party pooper........
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Post by Tony on Feb 12, 2019 11:14:30 GMT -5
ESPN BPI projects Siena with a 29.9% chance of winning conf regular season title, Canisius has most favorable schedule down the stretch and is listed as favorite with 44.9% chance. A win over Iona tomorrow would all but clinch a top 5 spot - with a 3 game lead over Iona ( effectively 4 since we would own tiebreaker) with 5 games to go. Siena would also own tiebreaker over Rider- 9 wins might get top 5, 10 wins should definitely do it
RK TEAM CONF W-L PROJ W-L CONF W-L PROJ CONF W-L WIN CONF (REG) REM SOS RK 1 Canisius MAAC 11-13 14.7-15.3 8-4 11.7-6.3 44.9% 316 2 Monmouth MAAC 10-16 12.3-18.7 9-4 11.3-6.7 29.9% 295 3 Siena MAAC 13-12 16.3-14.7 8-4 11.2-6.8 29.9% 306 4 Quinnipiac MAAC 12-10 16.1-12.9 7-4 11.1-6.9 28.3% 307 5 Rider MAAC 12-12 16.1-13.9 7-5 11.1-6.9 23.6% 299 6 Iona MAAC 8-15 11.2-17.8 6-6 9.2-8.8 1.7% 265 7 Marist MAAC 10-14 13.1-16.9 5-7 8.1-9.9 0.2% 276 8 Niagara MAAC 11-14 13.9-17.1 4-8 6.9-11.1 <0.1% 293 9 Manhattan MAAC 7-17 8.6-21.4 5-7 6.6-11.4 <0.1% 278 10 Fairfield MAAC 7-18 9.4-20.6 4-9 6.4-11.6 <0.1% 302 11 Saint Peter's MAAC 6-17 8.4-21.6 3-8 5.4-12.6 <0.1% 286
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Post by knicksaint on Feb 12, 2019 11:55:33 GMT -5
The chances of winning do not make sense to me. Teams 1-5 have a cumulative 156.6% chance of winning. How is that possible?
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 12, 2019 12:39:54 GMT -5
The chances of winning do not make sense to me. Teams 1-5 have a cumulative 156.6% chance of winning. How is that possible? It has to be a statistics/probability type thing the KK can explain. Something to do with looking at each team individual chances as opposed to all of them cumulative (sort of thing). Sort of like when they predict the chances of next year’s Super Bowl champs after this season ended. I think those numbers also don’t add up to 100%
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Post by $cott on Feb 12, 2019 13:00:21 GMT -5
The chances of winning do not make sense to me. Teams 1-5 have a cumulative 156.6% chance of winning. How is that possible? My guess is they are not incorporating tiebreakers so the percentages listed are the chance any team has of finishing at least tied for first place rather than their odds of winning the tiebreaker and getting the 1 seed.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 12, 2019 13:36:53 GMT -5
ESPN BPI projects Siena with a 29.9% chance of winning conf regular season title, Canisius has most favorable schedule down the stretch and is listed as favorite with 44.9% chance. A win over Iona tomorrow would all but clinch a top 5 spot - with a 3 game lead over Iona ( effectively 4 since we would own tiebreaker) with 5 games to go. Siena would also own tiebreaker over Rider- 9 wins might get top 5, 10 wins should definitely do it RK TEAM CONF W-L PROJ W-L CONF W-L PROJ CONF W-L WIN CONF (REG) REM SOS RK 1 Canisius MAAC 11-13 14.7-15.3 8-4 11.7-6.3 44.9% 316 2 Monmouth MAAC 10-16 12.3-18.7 9-4 11.3-6.7 29.9% 295 3 Siena MAAC 13-12 16.3-14.7 8-4 11.2-6.8 29.9% 306 4 Quinnipiac MAAC 12-10 16.1-12.9 7-4 11.1-6.9 28.3% 307 5 Rider MAAC 12-12 16.1-13.9 7-5 11.1-6.9 23.6% 299 6 Iona MAAC 8-15 11.2-17.8 6-6 9.2-8.8 1.7% 265 7 Marist MAAC 10-14 13.1-16.9 5-7 8.1-9.9 0.2% 276 8 Niagara MAAC 11-14 13.9-17.1 4-8 6.9-11.1 <0.1% 293 9 Manhattan MAAC 7-17 8.6-21.4 5-7 6.6-11.4 <0.1% 278 10 Fairfield MAAC 7-18 9.4-20.6 4-9 6.4-11.6 <0.1% 302 11 Saint Peter's MAAC 6-17 8.4-21.6 3-8 5.4-12.6 <0.1% 286 Time to break out bracket matrix. Siena is listed on seven different brackets, and climbing. www.bracketmatrix.com
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