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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 12:32:17 GMT -5
I too worry about sustaining the defensive buy-in next year, but hey that’s a problem for next year. Individually speaking, you may not get what Smithen is currently doing but with both Carey AND Walker they could potentially increase the rebound, steal, and block output from the backcourt tandem....in theory. But, it depends so much on Walker. The biggest thing is I expect the offense to be more efficient next year. FT shooting ability goes way up...as does ability to take guys off the bounce. Burns is a high PPS guy on paper...much more so than Fisher who relies on largely inefficient fadeaway 2's. And maybe the rebounding improves in the frontcourt with Burns, Young, Friday, and Sutherland....also all potentially helped by a reduction in Seymour's minutes. More versatility and more adaptability to find new and various ways to win games that maybe aren't available this year. Still, as we saw in MB2, sometimes the chemistry that 6 key guys with complementary skillsets all playing starters mins can get you is an intangible that's tough to replicate. At this point, the D is so good right now that it's tough to count on that aspect to be as good next year.
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Post by skipc on Feb 11, 2019 12:40:43 GMT -5
Smithen was 2nd on the team in box +/- last year and has been right behind Pickett and Degnan all year this year. In fact, he’s hanging just outside top 10 in the MAAC in the category. It’s been that way all year. Playing Darwiche and Seymour together so much was statistical suicide due to possessions. They don’t get rebounds, steals, etc.. Smithen’s steal rate has been mimicking Pickett’s all year. It’s hard to see Smithen’s value in a couple 4 min spurts a game because his value increases with time...and each add’l possession he gets us. Darwiche also fouls more, turns it over more, and has more shots taken than points. His +/- which is one of the worst is now being replaced by one of the best. Winning 7 of 8 is your result. The prorated math has showed it all year. And KS makes free throws which has been a big problem with us this year, particularly end of games.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 11, 2019 12:41:21 GMT -5
I too worry about sustaining the defensive buy-in next year, but hey that’s a problem for next year. Individually speaking, you may not get what Smithen is currently doing but with both Carey AND Walker they could potentially increase the rebound, steal, and block output from the backcourt tandem....in theory. But, it depends so much on Walker. The biggest thing is I expect the offense to be more efficient next year. FT shooting ability goes way up...as does ability to take guys off the bounce. Burns is a high PPS guy on paper...much more so than Fisher who relies on largely inefficient fadeaway 2's. And maybe the rebounding improves in the frontcourt with Burns, Young, Friday, and Sutherland....also all potentially helped by a reduction in Seymour's minutes. More versatility and more adaptability to find new and various ways to win games that maybe aren't available this year. Still, as we saw in MB2, sometimes the chemistry that 6 key guys with complementary skillsets all playing starters mins can get you is an intangible that's tough to replicate. At this point, the D is so good right now that it's tough to count on that aspect to be as good next year. Agreed. With regard to rebounding we know that it is taught to abandon some rebounds in some situations in favor of setting up the d. Understandable and working with our personnel this year. How is jc’s history in this area on previous teams? As previously stated the team is performing well within the conference but still only 230-250 nationally. I’m thinking Siena could be as high as 125-150 next year and if the other teams do not improve we could be looking at a dominant stretch in the maac.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 12:52:35 GMT -5
Individually speaking, you may not get what Smithen is currently doing but with both Carey AND Walker they could potentially increase the rebound, steal, and block output from the backcourt tandem....in theory. But, it depends so much on Walker. The biggest thing is I expect the offense to be more efficient next year. FT shooting ability goes way up...as does ability to take guys off the bounce. Burns is a high PPS guy on paper...much more so than Fisher who relies on largely inefficient fadeaway 2's. And maybe the rebounding improves in the frontcourt with Burns, Young, Friday, and Sutherland....also all potentially helped by a reduction in Seymour's minutes. More versatility and more adaptability to find new and various ways to win games that maybe aren't available this year. Still, as we saw in MB2, sometimes the chemistry that 6 key guys with complementary skillsets all playing starters mins can get you is an intangible that's tough to replicate. At this point, the D is so good right now that it's tough to count on that aspect to be as good next year. Agreed. With regard to rebounding we know that it is taught to abandon some rebounds in some situations in favor of setting up the d. Understandable and working with our personnel this year. How is jc’s history in this area on previous teams? As previously stated the team is performing well within the conference but still only 230-250 nationally. I’m thinking Siena could be as high as 125-150 next year and if the other teams do not improve we could be looking at a dominant stretch in the maac. Unlike Patsos, expect JC to completely ignore offensive rebounding for the foreseeable future in favor of setting up the D and stopping teams in transition. That's not a coincidence for this year. That will continue. However, Siena's defensive rebounding is actually ranked 155th this year. Unfortunately, that's the best by far JC has ever done. But I hope that they can at least repeat this defensive rebounding and even improve upon it next year. Seymour is averaging 26.5 mpg for this team at a rebound rate that is frankly beyond atrocious. Even Khalil Richard, our previous rebounding weakness, is a better rebounder. By cutting Seymour's minutes to 10-12 mpg off the bench, they could get a significant rebounding boost next year. I think Burns will match Fisher's rebounding at the very least. The key will be replacing Degnan's rebounding which I'm not sure is too too hard....but it's hard enough to be a concern. Maybe you can pick that up some from the back up centers in guys like Young and Friday...a guy like Sutherland...and Walker on the wing.
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Post by MTS on Feb 11, 2019 13:03:49 GMT -5
I know one thing... JC has been great on one day of prep- 5-2 so far this year. Bodes well for the rest of the season and tournament and the seasons to come. The previous staff was abysmal with short prep.
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Post by loudonville9 on Feb 11, 2019 13:06:31 GMT -5
Siena at Canisius on March 1 upgraded to an ESPNU game at 9 ET. Later start time for TV doesn't help for the Sunday turnaround at Niagara, but I feel like Siena games being upgraded for TV in March means good things have happened.
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 11, 2019 13:17:09 GMT -5
I too worry about sustaining the defensive buy-in next year, but hey that’s a problem for next year. Individually speaking, you may not get what Smithen is currently doing but with both Carey AND Walker they could potentially increase the rebound, steal, and block output from the backcourt tandem....in theory. But, it depends so much on Walker. The biggest thing is I expect the offense to be more efficient next year. FT shooting ability goes way up...as does ability to take guys off the bounce. Burns is a high PPS guy on paper...much more so than Fisher who relies on largely inefficient fadeaway 2's. And maybe the rebounding improves in the frontcourt with Burns, Young, Friday, and Sutherland....also all potentially helped by a reduction in Seymour's minutes. More versatility and more adaptability to find new and various ways to win games that maybe aren't available this year. Still, as we saw in MB2, sometimes the chemistry that 6 key guys with complementary skillsets all playing starters mins can get you is an intangible that's tough to replicate. At this point, the D is so good right now that it's tough to count on that aspect to be as good next year. If JC’s “working with what he has” trying different things the first 1/3 of the year to see what works then ultimately deciding on how we’re playing the 2nd 3rd of season; I gonna give him the benefit of doubt he’ll figure something out next season by the time MAAC play begins. Let’s assume our D isn’t as good as this year; I’ll assume and go in record that our offense may be better next year (scoring in the 70’s and winning games that way). With just enough D so other teams can’t out score us. I see JC as an adapter (until he can recruit a full team of players who fit his preferred style of play).
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 11, 2019 13:19:49 GMT -5
Siena at Canisius on March 1 upgraded to an ESPNU game at 9 ET. Later start time for TV doesn't help for the Sunday turnaround at Niagara, but I feel like Siena games being upgraded for TV in March means good things have happened. Feeling the lovin’!!! It may help with recruiting though. We’ll (Siena) take the free advertising w/the U channel upgrade.
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Post by MTS on Feb 11, 2019 15:18:31 GMT -5
Siena at Canisius on March 1 upgraded to an ESPNU game at 9 ET. Later start time for TV doesn't help for the Sunday turnaround at Niagara, but I feel like Siena games being upgraded for TV in March means good things have happened. Looks like they did indeed switch from Iona-Rider to Siena-Canisius. Let's hope we can go at least 3-1 at home and make that game HUGE!
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Post by hockeyguy on Feb 11, 2019 17:42:51 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me.
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Post by Quackman on Feb 11, 2019 18:11:07 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me. I only care about 1-0. Lose to Iona on Wednesday and all that momentum is gone.
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 11, 2019 18:26:21 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me. I like your style.
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Post by bbfan on Feb 11, 2019 19:07:18 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me. I only care about 1-0. Lose to Iona on Wednesday and all that momentum is gone. I think Canisius did the Saints a favor by ending Riders 17 game home winning streak. Glad they were a shell of what they could of been. Rider was 1-16 from 3 in their own gym, that's 6.3%, game over. Siena still had to win the game and did, barely. But it is strange to beat Rider in their gym, when not even needing 60 pts to win. Good thing the saints only have to play them once and same with Quinnipiac. Need to beat Quinnipiac in the only meeting next Sunday at home.
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Post by mike60 on Feb 11, 2019 19:16:15 GMT -5
KK you don't mention Camper very much. For games played he is the 2nd or 3rd leading rebounder; 1st in offensive rebounds; is certainly a decent defender. His major flaw is he can't shoot foul shots. I don't understand how that can't be fixed. I've watched him in a couple of games and he certainly has better form than Shaq. As a matter of fact it's not terrible at all. It just doesn't go in the basket.
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Post by MTS on Feb 11, 2019 19:20:34 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, with 13 games left to go, I posted here that this team could finish out 10-3 or 11-2 for the last 13. (As Casey Stengel said, or was it Leo the Lip? "You can look it up"). The team is now 7 games into those 13, and are 6-1. It is not beyond the pale that they could "win out" in the final 6. The western trip will be tough, but this team just gets better and better every game, I wouldn't put anything past them. Imagine that shock wave. I have referred to them as "The Lovable Mutts", I think now they are turning more into the "Junk Yard Dogs". No matter how it ends, this is going to be one heck of an act to follow next year. I haven't seen any complete games of the guys you all point to (Walker, Carey, Young) just "highlight clips" so will reserve opinion, but these "over-achievers" have given the fans a season to enjoy. And it just keeps getting better. I would never bet against them, but then I have a horse (part owner) in a race at Aqueduct on Feb 17, so I am okay with taking a chance that they can win it all in the MAAC and get a 14. I know some of you overly sensitives think I am too critical of the coach, I am not. Sometimes I should just shut up and read here, but I would advise 95% of you "experts" to do the same, but what fun would that be? In hockey, guys like me have been referred to as being "chirpy", and I am certainly opinionated, with no apologies. I have for 20 years admitted I am not a basketball guru, I just know "winners" when I see them. For me, that generally means "the lunch pail guys". Okay, rant over. I thank you all for tolerating me. I want to win every game but our margin for error is still very thin. We're winning all these close games and that's great but eventually one won't go our way. I just hope that is in the regular season and not in the tournament. Right now I'll gladly sign for 4-2 - that puts us at 17-14, 12-6 and should put us in the top 3 at least and maybe better. First things first...beat Iona!! Go Saints!!
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