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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 23, 2019 19:48:45 GMT -5
...watching #1 Tennessee play a tough league, and in-state game @ Vandy and see Lanier on the bench. I really hope he gets another shot at running his own program. I know I wouldn’t want him in the MAAC anytime soon! I’m sure he knows he’s need a real good X & O’s guy If this opportunity ever came up again. I’m one of the few that thought he did a pretty good job here (NCAA and NIT trip).
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Post by MTS on Jan 23, 2019 20:33:44 GMT -5
...watching #1 Tennessee play a tough league, and in-state game @ Vandy and see Lanier on the bench. I really hope he gets another shot at running his own program. I know I wouldn’t want him in the MAAC anytime soon! I’m sure he knows he’s need a real good X & O’s guy If this opportunity ever came up again. I’m one of the few that thought he did a pretty good job here (NCAA and NIT trip). Well he was better than 15 and 16 for sure. |
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Post by siena77 on Jan 23, 2019 20:37:45 GMT -5
I liked (and like) the guy. An outstanding recruiter and seemed to be a pretty good role model for the players he coached. That said, I think he was in over his head as a head coach. Maybe he's learned by now. As hoopjunkie said, maybe he'll do better next time. Meanwhile, it's obvious that Rick Barnes thinks a lot of him.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 23, 2019 21:17:22 GMT -5
I liked (and like) the guy. An outstanding recruiter and seemed to be a pretty good role model for the players he coached. That said, I think he was in over his head as a head coach. Maybe he's learned by now. As hoopjunkie said, maybe he'll do better next time. Meanwhile, it's obvious that Rick Barnes thinks a lot of him. If Cluess finally got a bigger job, imagine him at Iona?? Scary! |
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Post by gorvy on Jan 23, 2019 21:31:25 GMT -5
Bring it on,I’d love to see that happen. Or better yet ualbany.
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Post by bigsaintg on Jan 23, 2019 21:37:46 GMT -5
Doesnt he make like $500K now? I would think as Top assistant on top team he would go to at least a bigger mid major that could pay him
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Post by Tony on Jan 24, 2019 4:41:01 GMT -5
Lanier was bad. But he could recruit like a SOB,( worked hard at recruiting too) he struggled balancing his classes and couldn't coach his way out of paper bag . I dont remember any coach who was fired at mid major that came back and was successful. Do remember a few that tried it and they all flamed out. And HJ if you thought Lanier did a good job with losing seasons 3 of the 4 years here, then no wonder why you like So-so Jimbo. I agree with Gorvy bring him on at UA or Iona, I'd laugh my ass off
Maybe you guys can remember more but off the top of my head I can only remember 3 head coaches that were fired by mid major and got another job- 2 of the 3 got promoted when head coach died.
Jim Crews fired at Army, was on Majerus staff, and when Rick died Crews was promoted to head coach. He lasted 4 seasons and was fired after two straight 11-21 seasons – he flamed out as he ran out of Majerus players. Dino Gaudio was promoted to head coach at Wake after Prosser died and much like Crews Dino flamed out after a few years and was fired at Wake. And of course Siena fans are familiar what happened to Mitch who has distinction of being program wrecker at two MAAC schools
Anyone remember any other guys fired at mid major level that got another head coaching gig?
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 24, 2019 10:32:54 GMT -5
Lanier was bad. But he could recruit like a SOB,( worked hard at recruiting too) he struggled balancing his classes and couldn't coach his way out of paper bag . I dont remember any coach who was fired at mid major that came back and was successful. Do remember a few that tried it and they all flamed out. And HJ if you thought Lanier did a good job with losing seasons 3 of the 4 years here, then no wonder why you like So-so Jimbo. I agree with Gorvy bring him on at UA or Iona, I'd laugh my ass off Maybe you guys can remember more but off the top of my head I can only remember 3 head coaches that were fired by mid major and got another job- 2 of the 3 got promoted when head coach died. Jim Crews fired at Army, was on Majerus staff, and when Rick died Crews was promoted to head coach. He lasted 4 seasons and was fired after two straight 11-21 seasons – he flamed out as he ran out of Majerus players. Dino Gaudio was promoted to head coach at Wake after Prosser died and much like Crews Dino flamed out after a few years and was fired at Wake. And of course Siena fans are familiar what happened to Mitch who has distinction of being program wrecker at two MAAC schools Anyone remember any other guys fired at mid major level that got another head coaching gig? Tony, go ask all the MAAC programs if they’d take a NCAA and NIT (the real one) in 4 years. How many say no? Iona and Manhattan, that’s it. That guy went to Iona with the way he recruits and their acceptance rate, they’d dominate the conference. |
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Post by Tony on Jan 24, 2019 11:13:47 GMT -5
Lanier was bad. But he could recruit like a SOB,( worked hard at recruiting too) he struggled balancing his classes and couldn't coach his way out of paper bag . I dont remember any coach who was fired at mid major that came back and was successful. Do remember a few that tried it and they all flamed out. And HJ if you thought Lanier did a good job with losing seasons 3 of the 4 years here, then no wonder why you like So-so Jimbo. I agree with Gorvy bring him on at UA or Iona, I'd laugh my ass off Maybe you guys can remember more but off the top of my head I can only remember 3 head coaches that were fired by mid major and got another job- 2 of the 3 got promoted when head coach died. Jim Crews fired at Army, was on Majerus staff, and when Rick died Crews was promoted to head coach. He lasted 4 seasons and was fired after two straight 11-21 seasons – he flamed out as he ran out of Majerus players. Dino Gaudio was promoted to head coach at Wake after Prosser died and much like Crews Dino flamed out after a few years and was fired at Wake. And of course Siena fans are familiar what happened to Mitch who has distinction of being program wrecker at two MAAC schools Anyone remember any other guys fired at mid major level that got another head coaching gig? Tony, go ask all the MAAC programs if they’d take a NCAA and NIT (the real one) in 4 years. How many say no? Iona and Manhattan, that’s it. That guy went to Iona with the way he recruits and their acceptance rate, they’d dominate the conference. You didnt answer my question? How many guys get fired from mid major and gets a 2nd chance. There may be more than 3 I listed, but dont think it happens often. I can see the presser announcing him a new coach somewhere- had losing seasons 3 of his 4 years as coach- final year was a 6 win season- the AD would be run out of town. No way a high level mid major takes a chance on him.. maybe a NEC team, but it's hard to come back once a mid major fires you ANd BTW I wouldn't take Lanier back any more than I'd take Beyer, Mitch or Jimbo-- anyone of those 4 could go to UA or Iona and I'd laugh |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 24, 2019 13:08:07 GMT -5
Tony, go ask all the MAAC programs if they’d take a NCAA and NIT (the real one) in 4 years. How many say no? Iona and Manhattan, that’s it. That guy went to Iona with the way he recruits and their acceptance rate, they’d dominate the conference. You didnt answer my question? How many guys get fired from mid major and gets a 2nd chance. There may be more than 3 I listed, but dont think it happens often. I can see the presser announcing him a new coach somewhere- had losing seasons 3 of his 4 years as coach- final year was a 6 win season- the AD would be run out of town. No way a high level mid major takes a chance on him.. maybe a NEC team, but it's hard to come back once a mid major fires you ANd BTW I wouldn't take Lanier back any more than I'd take Beyer, Mitch or Jimbo-- anyone of those 4 could go to UA or Iona and I'd laugh Im sure there's plenty. Two of our guys did (Mitch and Deane). Lanier was what 32 when he got the Siena job? I'm sure he's learned a little since then, and his recruiting is unreal....as evidenced with Tennessee being #1. Problem with guys like him is a MM cant afford a guy like him. He makes more as an assistant than any HC in the MAAC probably. So the question is flawed. |
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Post by clickclack on Jan 24, 2019 13:58:57 GMT -5
Tony, go ask all the MAAC programs if they’d take a NCAA and NIT (the real one) in 4 years. How many say no? Iona and Manhattan, that’s it. That guy went to Iona with the way he recruits and their acceptance rate, they’d dominate the conference. You didnt answer my question? How many guys get fired from mid major and gets a 2nd chance. There may be more than 3 I listed, but dont think it happens often. I can see the presser announcing him a new coach somewhere- had losing seasons 3 of his 4 years as coach- final year was a 6 win season- the AD would be run out of town. No way a high level mid major takes a chance on him.. maybe a NEC team, but it's hard to come back once a mid major fires you ANd BTW I wouldn't take Lanier back any more than I'd take Beyer, Mitch or Jimbo-- anyone of those 4 could go to UA or Iona and I'd laugh Why on earth is UA who has a coach with 5 NCAA trips, just came off 4 straight years of 21+ wins the 5th being 19 and who is rebuilding and will back to the top very soon trolling for your old trash. You people are seriously mental...lol |
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Post by clickclack on Jan 24, 2019 14:01:39 GMT -5
Bring it on,I’d love to see that happen. Or better yet ualbany. I didn't know we were hiring...thanks. LOL UA is a house of winners (and Gattuso but we won't talk about that)...look at UA coaching ranks. Why would we hire this loser or any other loser you've run off. We had a front court seat to your destruction. A decade of losing and counting will drive you mad it appears judging by your and Tony's posting. LOL  |
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Post by IndianSaint on Jan 24, 2019 14:27:15 GMT -5
Hey, I like and support all the Siena coaches while they’re at Siena. I even support most of them after they move on but it still irks me that Lanier gets credit for the 4 MAAC tourney games in a row and NCAA victory when I learned after the fact the players decided to win/play in their own. Yes he could recruit )didn’t necessarily recruit all the players from that winning team) but really shouldn’t get credit for those victories if he wasn’t actively coaching the team during those games.
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Post by gorvy on Jan 24, 2019 14:29:31 GMT -5
You didnt answer my question? How many guys get fired from mid major and gets a 2nd chance. There may be more than 3 I listed, but dont think it happens often. I can see the presser announcing him a new coach somewhere- had losing seasons 3 of his 4 years as coach- final year was a 6 win season- the AD would be run out of town. No way a high level mid major takes a chance on him.. maybe a NEC team, but it's hard to come back once a mid major fires you ANd BTW I wouldn't take Lanier back any more than I'd take Beyer, Mitch or Jimbo-- anyone of those 4 could go to UA or Iona and I'd laugh Why on earth is UA who has a coach with 5 NCAA trips, just came off 4 straight years of 21+ wins the 5th being 19 and who is rebuilding and will back to the top very soon trolling for your old trash. You people are seriously mental...lol I heard he was on their short list. |
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Post by clickclack on Jan 24, 2019 15:38:34 GMT -5
Why on earth is UA who has a coach with 5 NCAA trips, just came off 4 straight years of 21+ wins the 5th being 19 and who is rebuilding and will back to the top very soon trolling for your old trash. You people are seriously mental...lol I heard he was on their short list. Can he coach football? |
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