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Post by MTS on Jan 17, 2019 17:49:00 GMT -5
It's obvious we cant play at any high speed level with the kids we have. IF Baker, Wojick, Penn, Shivers, Bentley, etc.....stayed, maybe we could emphasize pressing and running. Right now we cant. We have a few good pieces sitting out/signed, but def need more. The shotblocker is a necessity and I dont see us recruiting one currently, so thats concerning. JC is doing what he can. I think we'll be fine in a year or two. Best shotblocker in the league is in the house tonight. Evan needs to headfake a little tonight and get Robb in foul trouble. We will be MAAC contenders next year....print it. Staff will work hard - no vacations for JC and company. We have six good pieces sitting out that should be excellent additions led by Don Carey and Elijah Burns (plus Richard, Walker, Sutherland, Young). Pickett, Burns are Carey easily could be 3 of the best 10 players in the MAAC next year.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 17, 2019 18:01:09 GMT -5
It's obvious we cant play at any high speed level with the kids we have. IF Baker, Wojick, Penn, Shivers, Bentley, etc.....stayed, maybe we could emphasize pressing and running. Right now we cant. We have a few good pieces sitting out/signed, but def need more. The shotblocker is a necessity and I dont see us recruiting one currently, so thats concerning. JC is doing what he can. I think we'll be fine in a year or two. Best shotblocker in the league is in the house tonight. Evan needs to headfake a little tonight and get Robb in foul trouble. Sutherland is a athletic 4 who blocked 2.5 shots a game last year in HS.... Young has put up good block numbers in HS as well. That said, JC's team's at MSM always struggled with interior D... that's somewhat expected if you are reliant on a scoring big man-- how many 6-9 roll men in the PnR with Evan's skill can protect the rim too? Those dudes are at Cuse, not Siena. I think ideally you'd have a big like Burns who can bang down low and then an athletic 4 who keeps the spacing but cna be a legit weak-side rim protector-- I think Sutherland can be that guy long term. He's not going to give you Seymour shooting but if he can just be 35% or so it does wonders for your offensive flow.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jan 17, 2019 18:28:40 GMT -5
It's obvious we cant play at any high speed level with the kids we have. IF Baker, Wojick, Penn, Shivers, Bentley, etc.....stayed, maybe we could emphasize pressing and running. Right now we cant. We have a few good pieces sitting out/signed, but def need more. The shotblocker is a necessity and I dont see us recruiting one currently, so thats concerning. JC is doing what he can. I think we'll be fine in a year or two. Best shotblocker in the league is in the house tonight. Evan needs to headfake a little tonight and get Robb in foul trouble. Sutherland is a athletic 4 who blocked 2.5 shots a game last year in HS.... Young has put up good block numbers in HS as well. That said, JC's team's at MSM always struggled with interior D... that's somewhat expected if you are reliant on a scoring big man-- how many 6-9 roll men in the PnR with Evan's skill can protect the rim too? Those dudes are at Cuse, not Siena. I think ideally you'd have a big like Burns who can bang down low and then an athletic 4 who keeps the spacing but cna be a legit weak-side rim protector-- I think Sutherland can be that guy long term. He's not going to give you Seymour shooting but if he can just be 35% or so it does wonders for your offensive flow. Why would you need a big man to score with a starting lineup of: Carey, Pickett, Walker and Seymour? Just give me a kid like Holy Cross has. Doesnt need to be 6'9". 6'7" and an active leaper is the ticket.
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Post by bbfan on Jan 17, 2019 19:04:59 GMT -5
It's obvious we cant play at any high speed level with the kids we have. IF Baker, Wojick, Penn, Shivers, Bentley, etc.....stayed, maybe we could emphasize pressing and running. Right now we cant. We have a few good pieces sitting out/signed, but def need more. The shotblocker is a necessity and I dont see us recruiting one currently, so thats concerning. JC is doing what he can. I think we'll be fine in a year or two. Best shotblocker in the league is in the house tonight. Evan needs to headfake a little tonight and get Robb in foul trouble. Sutherland is a athletic 4 who blocked 2.5 shots a game last year in HS.... Young has put up good block numbers in HS as well. That said, JC's team's at MSM always struggled with interior D... that's somewhat expected if you are reliant on a scoring big man-- how many 6-9 roll men in the PnR with Evan's skill can protect the rim too? Those dudes are at Cuse, not Siena. I think ideally you'd have a big like Burns who can bang down low and then an athletic 4 who keeps the spacing but cna be a legit weak-side rim protector-- I think Sutherland can be that guy long term. He's not going to give you Seymour shooting but if he can just be 35% or so it does wonders for your offensive flow. What do you think Seymour is shooting? He's shooting 35%, and that's all he does is shoot.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 17, 2019 19:27:51 GMT -5
Sutherland is a athletic 4 who blocked 2.5 shots a game last year in HS.... Young has put up good block numbers in HS as well. That said, JC's team's at MSM always struggled with interior D... that's somewhat expected if you are reliant on a scoring big man-- how many 6-9 roll men in the PnR with Evan's skill can protect the rim too? Those dudes are at Cuse, not Siena. I think ideally you'd have a big like Burns who can bang down low and then an athletic 4 who keeps the spacing but cna be a legit weak-side rim protector-- I think Sutherland can be that guy long term. He's not going to give you Seymour shooting but if he can just be 35% or so it does wonders for your offensive flow. Why would you need a big man to score with a starting lineup of: Carey, Pickett, Walker and Seymour? Just give me a kid like Holy Cross has. Doesnt need to be 6'9". 6'7" and an active leaper is the ticket. Because you need a roll man who is a legit threat to score! Otherwise they focus all their energy on the PG in the PnR and you can only find the Big with a tough pass he had to catch and finish... I’m not saying you need Fisher’s post moves but you probably need more than Floyd from HC has.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Jan 18, 2019 0:12:59 GMT -5
First game this year that I have seen where they tried on many occasions tonight to push the ball up the floor and were looking for shots early in the shot clock. Agressive defense. Even though they ran out of gas late they played an entertaining more up tempo game tonight and it worked out pretty well for them.
Great job tonight coach. You gave me something to look forward too. Hope. Energy. Regardless of success, hope you keep playing this type of ball more often.
As far as the players go Pickett was his usual rock of stability self out there tonight but the night belonged to Smithen on what he brought on both ends of the floor. Great job tonight guys...especially after being down 12-2 to start the game.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 18, 2019 0:34:37 GMT -5
First game this year that I have seen where they tried on many occasions tonight to push the ball up the floor and were looking for shots early in the shot clock. Agressive defense. Even though they ran out of gas late they played an entertaining more up tempo game tonight and it worked out pretty well for them. Great job tonight coach. You gave me something to look forward too. Hope. Energy. Regardless of success, hope you keep playing this type of ball more often. As far as the players go Pickett was his usual rock of stability self out there tonight but the night belonged to Smithen on what he brought on both ends of the floor. Great job tonight guys...especially after being down 12-2 to start the game. Only 67 points though... too boring, won’t attract fans winning like that right? 😉
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Post by gorvy on Jan 18, 2019 6:45:57 GMT -5
I saw it more as they were even more intense on d, creating mayhem. I guarantee you that if they scored the same 67 points in the same way and lost, saints fans all year Long’s post would have been twice as long with different content.
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Post by olddave on Jan 18, 2019 8:29:49 GMT -5
First game this year that I have seen where they tried on many occasions tonight to push the ball up the floor and were looking for shots early in the shot clock. Agressive defense. Even though they ran out of gas late they played an entertaining more up tempo game tonight and it worked out pretty well for them. Great job tonight coach. You gave me something to look forward too. Hope. Energy. Regardless of success, hope you keep playing this type of ball more often. As far as the players go Pickett was his usual rock of stability self out there tonight but the night belonged to Smithen on what he brought on both ends of the floor. Great job tonight guys...especially after being down 12-2 to start the game. Only 67 points though... too boring, won’t attract fans winning like that right? 😉 Win 20 games, go to a tournament averaging 67 points and see what the attendance is
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 18, 2019 9:47:05 GMT -5
Only 67 points though... too boring, won’t attract fans winning like that right? 😉 Win 20 games, go to a tournament averaging 67 points and see what the attendance is Sarcasm...
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Post by olddave on Jan 18, 2019 11:54:57 GMT -5
Win 20 games, go to a tournament averaging 67 points and see what the attendance is Sarcasm... Sarcasm? Reality check partner. You made the statement attendance would go down at 67 a game.Winning teams draw crowds no matter what the score is, especiall in SmallAlbany.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jan 18, 2019 11:59:29 GMT -5
Sarcasm? Reality check partner. You made the statement attendance would go down at 67 a game.Winning teams draw crowds no matter what the score is, especiall in SmallAlbany. Dude, I was poking fun at SienaFanAllYearLong2, since he was the one who started this thread complaining about pace. I was quoting his post saying he was happy with the effort, joking that 67 points wouldn’t be enough to bring the fans back. Perhaps my dry sense of humor doesn’t come across well online. Whatever. Of course the fans will come if we win.
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Post by mike60 on Jan 18, 2019 12:47:30 GMT -5
Siena fans are great! How many Maac teams had attendance greater than our last year when we won only 8 games? This year with some improvement the attendance looks good,and if we make something that looks like a run, it will be up a bit more.
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Post by olddave on Jan 18, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -5
Sarcasm? Reality check partner. You made the statement attendance would go down at 67 a game.Winning teams draw crowds no matter what the score is, especiall in SmallAlbany. Dude, I was poking fun at SienaFanAllYearLong2, since he was the one who started this thread complaining about pace. I was quoting his post saying he was happy with the effort, joking that 67 points wouldn’t be enough to bring the fans back. Perhaps my dry sense of humor doesn’t come across well online. Whatever. Of course the fans will come if we win. It s cool. Took it out of context. General agree with your posts, peace
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Jan 22, 2019 15:32:51 GMT -5
I would of course prefer more but 67 points in a win is much better than 61 in an OT loss.
What was more important to me as fan of being aggressive with both offensive and defensive hoop was that they were actually trying more often than not to look for opportunities to push the ball up the floor and looking for their shot early in the shot clock.
Unless they get in to the big dance every year winning ugly, if you all think that winning no matter what (in the 50's/low 60's) will draw "new" fans, you are delusional.
If they go 12-6 in MAAC play scoring 58-63 pts p/gm and make it to the MAAC final they will still draw less than 6000 actual fans per game next year. If they have that same record and reach the MAAC Final next yr scoring 75-80 pts p/gm they will avg over 6500 fans next yr.
Offense and pace matters. Know many of you do not seem to give a hoot about it but it matters if you want to grow your base.
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