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Post by hockeyguy on May 23, 2019 14:59:55 GMT -5
Just one guy's opinion. You want kids with ability to come play for you, you don't have this kind of schedule. Yeah, you guys who think all wins are created equal and you get to go to more home games, good for you. Siena needs to adopt the attitude "We Create Warriors". If you want to win the race to the bottom, this doesn't look like a bad path. You want to become the the next 'Zags or X, this ain't the way to go. Yay!!! We beat Yale... or Colgate.. you want more talented kids, you sell them on we played 5 HM.s on the road, and won twice, with you, maybe that becomes 4 times. Kids have huge ego's that need to be fed (the only thing they know). Monmouth over-did it a couple years ago playing 11 of their first 12 on the road, including 5 HM's (okay UCLA twice) but from where I sit, that is much closer to the way to go. Peace. p.s. I would much rather be the worst team in the best league than being the best team in the worst league. Don't get mad, get better. Ongoing further proof of why this guy should stick to posting about hockey.... and not basketball. Respecting that each of us is entitled to our opinion...my undergraduate Alma Mater hockey team goes to the NCAA's just about every year. The women's hockey team are winners (National D1 champions 3 of the past 6 years, even though there are only 900 in total at the University). Maybe I am just used to following a winner, even 45 years after commencement. When "Mr. Nice Guy" was the coach, that didn't happen. You get better by playing the best you can schedule, year after year. The sport doesn't matter in that regard.
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Post by gorvy on May 23, 2019 15:44:06 GMT -5
Yale made the NCAAs last year. Harvard has multiple top-150 recruits and is seen as a top 50 team for next year. Bucknell has made like 3 NCAAs in the last 4 years. Colgate danced last year and brings a bunch back. Bona is a top 75 team. Xavier a top-30 team. Every single team in that list is better than any MAAC team we’ll see all year. Getting paid to play the big brands is fine, but for a program that prides itself on its fan base it’s a pretty shitty thing to do to get no home games. Siena fans want to see good mid-majors come to town. I have no problem with the quality of the schedule but would like to see the home schedule finalized.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 19:16:30 GMT -5
Ongoing further proof of why this guy should stick to posting about hockey.... and not basketball. Respecting that each of us is entitled to our opinion...my undergraduate Alma Mater hockey team goes to the NCAA's just about every year. The women's hockey team are winners (National D1 champions 3 of the past 6 years, even though there are only 900 in total at the University). Maybe I am just used to following a winner, even 45 years after commencement. When "Mr. Nice Guy" was the coach, that didn't happen. You get better by playing the best you can schedule, year after year. The sport doesn't matter in that regard. I beg to differ with the basis of your conclusion. Key words to keep in mind "playing the best you can schedule". There are 347 D1 Men's Basketball Teams that schedule between 29 and 31 games each year (discounting post season obviously). Your alma mater now is one of 60 D1 Men's Hockey Teams (no clue how many were in existence when you were an undergrad) that schedule 34 games a year. Not surprising that your alma mater was able to schedule much better teams each year. Just given the 34/60 ratio would predict that EACH team would play each other once and more likely twice. Not so on the hoops board. College hoop is much different - the big boys won't schedule down unless you agree to a big $$$ payoff and come play in their sandbox. Fans want to see OOC teams at home so scheduling is, following recruiting, one of the staff's biggest nightmares. Need to schedule good teams to get better and ready for conference play is not always able to be done by finding games against P5 conferences. Fran succeeded in getting some great matchups because we were a/the top MAAC team and the now defunct Bracket Buster was in vogue. Today's hoop conferences are rarely made up of 8 teams so the number of OOC scheduling opportunities are fewer.
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Post by rpize24 on May 29, 2019 16:37:13 GMT -5
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Post by knicksaint on Jun 10, 2019 23:08:38 GMT -5
Per Jeff Goodman @stadium, Saints will face two pre-season Top 25 teams, No. 20 Xavier and No. 24 Harvard.
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Post by rpize24 on Jun 10, 2019 23:23:31 GMT -5
Per Jeff Goodman @stadium, Saints will face two pre-season Top 25 teams, No. 20 Xavier and No. 24 Harvard. Obviously it's just one opinion but a very good one at that. Remains to be seen how the top 25 plays out but I'll gladly take this should it happen
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Post by saints22 on Jun 11, 2019 8:14:09 GMT -5
Per Jeff Goodman @stadium, Saints will face two pre-season Top 25 teams, No. 20 Xavier and No. 24 Harvard. Game is at Harvard. Sort of a "home" game for Ralph, Denny and me!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:51:37 GMT -5
Ok, so is this how it is now? We're just looking for a tournament? Or a home game?
Home: St. Bonaventure, Bucknell, Holy Cross Away: Xavier, Harvard, Yale, Colgate, Cal Poly
Bucknell should be down some post-Sestina and McKenzie I'd think and Holy Cross lost their stud shotblocker/assist man Floyd. I'd think that Siena could win those 2 plus Cal Poly.
Bonnies, Xavier, Harvard, Yale, and even Colgate might are all pretty tough games I think. These are all returning 18+ game winners ranked inside the top 130.
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Post by knicksaint on Jun 11, 2019 11:39:45 GMT -5
The last I heard, we are looking for a home game, but will apparently go on the road to face an attractive opponent who would return the game in 2020-21.
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Post by gorvy on Jun 11, 2019 14:39:56 GMT -5
So if we did that we would have 13 home 16 away not a good way to get a decent record.
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Post by Quackman on Jun 11, 2019 15:01:15 GMT -5
So if we did that we would have 13 home 16 away not a good way to get a decent record. 100% agree. Key to a good OOC record is getting as many games as possible at home or, at worst, neutral sites.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 15:09:14 GMT -5
So if we did that we would have 13 home 16 away not a good way to get a decent record. Yeah, looking at it now...20 wins might not be so easy. They'll have to really do work early with a team where half the pieces and coach will be new. Pickett might be able to steady the ship enough early to get something done though. And Xavier will be a warm up that won't hurt the ranking. 4-5 in the OOC is almost a success. They'd need to be at least 15-5 in the MAAC then to win 20 (assuming a 1st round MAAC tourney win) and that's tough. A lot of things have to go right.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Jun 11, 2019 15:13:24 GMT -5
So if we did that we would have 13 home 16 away not a good way to get a decent record. Get used to it. Unless you buy home games, the only chance you have to even stay perfectly even is to only schedule home and homes (no money from buy games) and never have those games wind up getting skewed a bit with a perfect number of home and roads for a year. Scheduling is one of the many ways that the gap between mid-majors and high-majors has continued to grow even though there are still upsets come tournament time.
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Post by $cott on Jun 11, 2019 15:24:53 GMT -5
So if we did that we would have 13 home 16 away not a good way to get a decent record. 100% agree. Key to a good OOC record is getting as many games as possible at home or, at worst, neutral sites. Hate to burst people's bubbles that want to keep blaming the scheduling but best way to get a good OOC record is to win games. Just in home games alone the MAAC lost the following games last year: Canisius lost to Albany Fairfield lost to LIU-Brooklyn, Wagner, Oakland plus Longwood on a neutral court Iona lost to Albany, Holy Cross plus were swept at the Garden by Princeton and Columbia Manhattan lost to Elon, Stony Brook, Fordham, and Hofstra Marist lost to Brown Monmouth was routed by Lehigh Niagara lost to Grambling, St Francis NY, and Albany Quinnipac lost to Hartford and Stony Brook St Peter's lost to Delaware and LIU Brooklyn Siena lost to Lehigh, Colgate, and Charleston If you are losing home games consistently to Patriot League, America East and Northeast Conference teams then your problem isn't scheduling, it is that your conference stinks.
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Post by Quackman on Jun 11, 2019 15:53:44 GMT -5
100% agree. Key to a good OOC record is getting as many games as possible at home or, at worst, neutral sites. Hate to burst people's bubbles that want to keep blaming the scheduling but best way to get a good OOC record is to win games. Just in home games alone the MAAC lost the following games last year: Canisius lost to Albany Fairfield lost to LIU-Brooklyn, Wagner, Oakland plus Longwood on a neutral court Iona lost to Albany, Holy Cross plus were swept at the Garden by Princeton and Columbia Manhattan lost to Elon, Stony Brook, Fordham, and Hofstra Marist lost to Brown Monmouth was routed by Lehigh Niagara lost to Grambling, St Francis NY, and Albany Quinnipac lost to Hartford and Stony Brook St Peter's lost to Delaware and LIU Brooklyn Siena lost to Lehigh, Colgate, and Charleston If you are losing home games consistently to Patriot League, America East and Northeast Conference teams then your problem isn't scheduling, it is that your conference stinks. Home teams win like 60% of the time and enjoy a 2 to 6 point advantage. If you don't think playing more games away from home doesn't hurt teams, you're kidding yourself. Beyond the increase in likelihood of losing, there is also the issues that come along with prolonged losing streaks (loss of confidence/morale and hits to team chemistry) I wrote about it last fall, at the beginning of December, the MAAC had the fewest average home games of any conference in D1, including conferences like the MEAC and SWAC who are infamous for the amount of road games they play. That is not a recipe for success. That said, I absolutely agree that teams have to win home games especially against like and lower rated teams. Last year was horrible but the scheduling didn't help in the least.
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