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Post by Tony on Apr 5, 2018 3:55:19 GMT -5
Well it's done- agreed not good way- let's hope Siena doesnt compound this by letting Darg have any say in new coach. This B/S didnt happen in vacuum. Darg knew what was going on, Darg also let Jimmy vacation twice a month in off season every year- the seeds of this year's 8 win season were sown the least 5 years by the mistake after mistake Patsos made taking kids with little to no other offers, and his inability to win kids in competitive recruiting situations, his so called recruiting trips to west coast where he spent more time partying than he did recruiting. Hopefully a plan is in place to clean house and remove/ retire Darg. I hold him fully culpable for the current situation of the Siena program
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Post by ryan on Apr 5, 2018 4:09:33 GMT -5
Agree Tony. He has been berating people around the program from day 1.
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Post by Tony on Apr 5, 2018 4:23:47 GMT -5
Yes he has, he also didn’t have clue about basketball. Yet he is man running Siena’s two most prominent programs. If you look at men and women’s programs. Losing records, little to no accountability by the coach’s, contracts he has negotiated, it’s clear he is way over his head. Its time Siena ran these programs like the business they are – bring in a professional Athletic director that will return accountability to the department
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Post by greenblood on Apr 5, 2018 5:53:53 GMT -5
Tony, I think Ryan is talking about JP berating people from day 1. Ask Garrett Kelly who was forced to walk hauling equipment to meet the bus that was ordered to leave campus without him because he made a travel arrangement error in Patsos first year. The bus was pulled over to wait for him to catch up on RT 9 at the Mobil Station. Full circle, ask Sammy Friday about being left at St. Peter's after the game thus season. In between ask the players and staff he berated in front of the entire team and staff in what were often tirades and then passed of as 'jokes' or 'comedy'. The only joke has been JP and the staff that stayed and have been silent through it all. Time for a major sweeping overhaul.
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Post by ryan on Apr 5, 2018 6:08:36 GMT -5
Agree Silas ran as he berated him in practice relating to his origin. That personality worked 20 years ago not today where everything is personal
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 6:11:27 GMT -5
The man was an embarrassment to the coaching community long before coming to Siena. This crap comes as zero surprise - only difference is that he apparently has been emboldened year in and year out at Siena by the Administration's continual looking the other way. So now we have made the national news in an effort to excise this cancer. Many of us could easily say "Told you so!" but that just tastes lousy and feels even worse. There are many other "stories" out there that, undoubtedly, will leak out over the next days that will further paint this untalented egotist's portrait in the black paint he has earned...
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Post by gorvy on Apr 5, 2018 6:27:09 GMT -5
The man was an embarrassment to the coaching community long before coming to Siena. This crap comes as zero surprise - only difference is that he apparently has been emboldened year in and year out at Siena by the Administration's continual looking the other way. So now we have made the national news in an effort to excise this cancer. Many of us could easily say "Told you so!" but that just tastes lousy and feels even worse. There are many other "stories" out there that, undoubtedly, will leak out over the next days that will further paint this untalented egotist's portrait in the black paint he has earned... . I don’t mind saying it...
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Post by MTS on Apr 5, 2018 6:32:21 GMT -5
MP, Greenblood and Gorvy (and maybe a few others I'm missing) called this from day 1. I gave you guys heat and am embarrassed I ever did so. You were prophetic!
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Post by olddave on Apr 5, 2018 6:55:14 GMT -5
Let it play out, hopefully not long. Small buyout to save everyone face. As far as Darg, retirement is in the wind. Obviously he has done some good but overall has mishandled the signature program for the college. Unfortunately that overshadows the his credits. Hopefully both men resign retire the same week
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Post by sky on Apr 5, 2018 7:18:08 GMT -5
Let it play out, hopefully not long. Small buyout to save everyone face. As far as Darg, retirement is in the wind. Obviously he has done some good but overall has mishandled the signature program for the college. Unfortunately that overshadows the his credits. Hopefully both men resign retire the same week One "aw,shit wipes out ten "atta boys"
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Post by olddave on Apr 5, 2018 7:22:43 GMT -5
Let it play out, hopefully not long. Small buyout to save everyone face. As far as Darg, retirement is in the wind. Obviously he has done some good but overall has mishandled the signature program for the college. Unfortunately that overshadows the his credits. Hopefully both men resign retire the same week One "aw,shit wipes out ten "atta boys" Exactly, that reality.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 5, 2018 7:23:47 GMT -5
MP, Greenblood and Gorvy (and maybe a few others I'm missing) called this from day 1. I gave you guys heat and am embarrassed I ever did so. You were prophetic! A few called it before day 1! Just sayin’😏
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Post by Tony on Apr 5, 2018 7:25:18 GMT -5
agree with sentiments about JP- this thread was about Darg- the incompetence of the man is astounding. He took a program that was one of the top programs not only in the MAAC, but one of the tops mids in the country and in 8 short years ran into the ground with unbelievably bad head coach choices and he compounded that by offering poorly thought out contracts, basically he failed to protect Siena’s interests,
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Post by gosaints on Apr 5, 2018 7:59:10 GMT -5
Let it play out, hopefully not long. Small buyout to save everyone face. As far as Darg, retirement is in the wind. Obviously he has done some good but overall has mishandled the signature program for the college. Unfortunately that overshadows the his credits. Hopefully both men resign retire the same week Can't understand why anyone is bringing up a "buyout" with the situation the way it is. Now that the cat is out of the bag i'm sure we'll hear about more incidents of Pastos's unacceptable antics. Just fire his A-- and lets move on with it. Now let move on to D'Arg and move him out as well. I could be a little more tolerant with him but at a minimum he should be retired. There is no way he did not know about the issues that have publically surfaced the past couple of days. If many of us on this board heard about it months ago and posted it on this site D'Agenio was also aware and should have, at a minimum, suspended Pastos pending finalization of an investigation.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Apr 5, 2018 8:16:43 GMT -5
Not a D'Arg fan by any means(I agree he has to go immediately) but in being fair to the guy, hard to fault JD on the Mitch hire.
When you have the most successful coach in school history, "all" of the returning players (who were expecting to have another great year post Fran with all time program greats and seniors Rossiter and CJ and others like OD and Downey all returning), and I am sure, Brother Kevin and many big boosters pressuring him to just make the decision himself and follow his boss's lead and Fran's lead on this and make the transition seamless at the time by taking Mitch, it's hard to blame the guy on the actual Mitch hire.
Anything after that is on him.
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