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Post by goldsaint17 on Mar 4, 2018 12:38:34 GMT -5
Whoever wins seems like they definitely have to play in a play in game and not even get to the big second round. Does that matter much for MAAC money coming in? Actually winning the PIG would make the MAAC more money than getting a bye and losing in their first game.
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Post by gorvy on Mar 4, 2018 12:43:09 GMT -5
If they win the playin game it’s worth about $1.5 million for the conference.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 5, 2018 20:59:34 GMT -5
Iona owns this damn tournament
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Post by gorvy on Mar 5, 2018 21:29:08 GMT -5
They piss me off because they play defense three times a year. Because of it they don’t get the seed they deserve. But cluess is a heck of a tournament coach.
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Post by $cott on Mar 5, 2018 22:39:09 GMT -5
Sad that tonight was the loudest the TUC has been for a basketball game all season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 4:43:08 GMT -5
Sad that tonight was the loudest the TUC has been for a basketball game all season. There was something to cheer for.
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Post by hoopdad on Mar 6, 2018 10:30:37 GMT -5
I had the opportunity to watch most of the men's games in person. The others I was able to watch on TV. The ability to watch the other MAAC teams without Siena playing, was very insightful. I walked away with two key observations:
1. The talent level of most of the other teams was much higher than the current Saints. Most teams and individual players are bigger, stronger, more athletic, better basketball skills and deeper rosters. For those of you who claim Saints have talent, I just do not see it when compared to the other teams in the MAAC. The reason I think the Saints did have a few wins and were competitive in some game was, to the players and coaches credit, they did play hard most of the time.
2. Positive, calmer coaching and having experienced, senior assistant coaches is far more effective than what Siena currently has in place: Crazy, intimidating coach with junior, less experienced assistants.
D'Arg, sat at the scorers table the entire tournament, he was watching every game and head coach intently, taking notes. If he did not walk away with the the same 2 observations, than he is not the right man for the AD job as Siena.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 10:38:03 GMT -5
Only thing I would add to your observations is the belief that the staff is also intimidated by So-so - I think they are all better to a man than what they are allowed to show during a game - he doesn't even consult them, rather he berates them much the same as the current players in his dog house - I asked one of his earlier coaches who was let go what So-so was screaming at him during a game for and he told me he that So-so was upset that the coach had said the kid should play that night - I guess So-so was unable to make a determination based on practice performance like he alibis with after losses now...
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Post by Tony on Mar 6, 2018 10:58:07 GMT -5
I agree with your observations hoopdad wholeheartedly. This lack of talent didn’t happen overnight, the AD let Jimmy get away with this, the weak recruiting (vacations twice a month in off season) has been going on since JP got here. For me the red flags started going up when JP gave d2 player Cam Gottfried a scholarship and Jimmy Paige ( never visited campus) a scholarship in late January or early February- BTW Jimmy Paige had a very good season this year at D2 level- where he should have been all along. Earlier this season Darg was walking around arena telling boosters what a wonderfully talented young team we had . My point is I don’t think Darg would recognize talent if it hit him in the face. Not only is Darg a poor negotiator with contracts, he really has no idea how to run a successful BB program ( either men or women’s) Siena won’t be truly “fixed” until they relieve him of his day to day athletic director duties
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 6, 2018 11:30:25 GMT -5
I agree with your observations hoopdad wholeheartedly. This lack of talent didn’t happen overnight, the AD let Jimmy get away with this, the weak recruiting (vacations twice a month in off season) has been going on since JP got here. For me the red flags started going up when JP gave d2 player Cam Gottfried a scholarship and Jimmy Paige ( never visited campus) a scholarship in late January or early February- BTW Jimmy Paige had a very good season this year at D2 level- where he should have been all along. Earlier this season Darg was walking around arena telling boosters what a wonderfully talented young team we had . My point is I don’t think Darg would recognize talent if it hit him in the face. Not only is Darg a poor negotiator with contracts, he really has no idea how to run a successful BB program ( either men or women’s) Siena won’t be truly “fixed” until they relieve him of his day to day athletic director duties The fact that we do not have a single player that can get to the rim/drive with any consistency or repeatedly create their own shots speaks volumes. You’re not winning at this level without multiple players being able to do so....this about sums it up.
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Post by siena70 on Mar 6, 2018 11:30:27 GMT -5
Years ago FF got Cooley using a paid consultant. I believe other MAAC schools have also used paid consultants.
Siena is cheap and not likely to use a paid outside independent consultant, but can they afford to miss again , with D'Arg , mega ego priests, and other unprofessional know it alls making biased decisions.
The last good hire was Fran, and he had been rejected earlier, at the insistence of Fr Toal, who forced the decision on the hiring of Lanier.
Siena has self-destructed because they failed to put in place a check and balance system.
I see the BOT making the same mistakes again--- only this time another bad hire may take the program down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 11:57:44 GMT -5
Years ago FF got Cooley using a paid consultant. I believe other MAAC schools have also used paid consultants. Siena is cheap and not likely to use a paid outside independent consultant, but can they afford to miss again , with D'Arg , mega ego priests, and other unprofessional know it alls making biased decisions. The last good hire was Fran, and he had been rejected earlier, at the insistence of Fr Toal, who forced the decision on the hiring of Lanier. Siena has self-destructed because they failed to put in place a check and balance system. I see the BOT making the same mistakes again--- only this time another bad hire may take the program down. I think you could make your points just as well if you left off the religious overtones that seem to infect a lot of your criticism of the school and its Administration. The phrase "mega ego priests" could just as easily said "mega ego administrators" - religion has no direct bearing on picking a coach, other than a little prayer that you got it right!
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Post by saints22 on Mar 6, 2018 13:06:15 GMT -5
Years ago FF got Cooley using a paid consultant. I believe other MAAC schools have also used paid consultants. Siena is cheap and not likely to use a paid outside independent consultant, but can they afford to miss again , with D'Arg , mega ego priests, and other unprofessional know it alls making biased decisions. The last good hire was Fran, and he had been rejected earlier, at the insistence of Fr Toal, who forced the decision on the hiring of Lanier. Siena has self-destructed because they failed to put in place a check and balance system. I see the BOT making the same mistakes again--- only this time another bad hire may take the program down. I think Fran is the best coach in the history of Siena basketball, but realistically, hiring Rob Lanier was not a bad decision. Obviously it didn’t work out, but based on his resume, it seemed like a pretty solid choice. And I agree with Misspractice’s comments about your post and the reference to “priests”. That’s a common theme in virtually all of your posts. I don’t know what happened to cause you to have such animus toward the Franciscans and priests, but I am truly sorry that you’ve had to carry that burden for so many years.
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Post by olddave on Mar 6, 2018 13:18:17 GMT -5
Years ago FF got Cooley using a paid consultant. I believe other MAAC schools have also used paid consultants. Siena is cheap and not likely to use a paid outside independent consultant, but can they afford to miss again , with D'Arg , mega ego priests, and other unprofessional know it alls making biased decisions. The last good hire was Fran, and he had been rejected earlier, at the insistence of Fr Toal, who forced the decision on the hiring of Lanier. Siena has self-destructed because they failed to put in place a check and balance system. I see the BOT making the same mistakes again--- only this time another bad hire may take the program down. I think you could make your points just as well if you left off the religious overtones that seem to infect a lot of your criticism of the school and its Administration. The phrase "mega ego priests" could just as easily said "mega ego administrators" - religion has no direct bearing on picking a coach, other than a little prayer that you got it right Yes agree the wording was harsh, but let’s clarify that the position can be held by clergy, secular, male, female, race shouldn’t matter or sexual orientation as long as that person I’d qualified. Siena needs to step up and hire the right qualified person no matter who what they are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 14:48:35 GMT -5
Yeah, leave those Mega Eggos at the door.
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