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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 21:14:51 GMT -5
I just viewed the game and would like your take on it. Use the link below and go to 43:42 on the running time bar and you can hear the horn. 43:50 you can hear a whistle and the referee comes over to the Bucknell bench with one finger up in the air, which they always do. 43:53 you can hear a second whistle and see both teams running onto the court. Siena’s team was sitting on the court and Bucknell were on their bench. 43:57 you hear a third whistle from the referee on the right hand side of the court. Which is the technical. Is this an attempted to stop the teams from going onto the court for their time out? livestream.com/bucknell/events/4477096
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Post by musicman on Nov 25, 2015 23:57:20 GMT -5
I just viewed the game and would like your take on it. Use the link below and go to 43:42 on the running time bar and you can hear the horn. 43:50 you can hear a whistle and the referee comes over to the Bucknell bench with one finger up in the air, which they always do. 43:53 you can hear a second whistle and see both teams running onto the court. Siena’s team was sitting on the court and Bucknell were on their bench. 43:57 you hear a third whistle from the referee on the right hand side of the court. Which is the technical. Is this an attempted to stop the teams from going onto the court for their time out? livestream.com/bucknell/events/4477096Seeing it after you're aware of what the technical was for. WOW! Someone has an axe to grind with JP. I don't get it. I wonder if there will be a public explanation in the future from Jimmy. Someone will ask the question on one of the talk shows he appears on, wouldn't you think?
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 26, 2015 4:11:03 GMT -5
That call was an absolute joke.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 7:01:56 GMT -5
One of the pace of play changes and points of emphasis seems to have been applied here by an over zealous zebra - a one shot technical can be assessed for "delay of game"! It is unfortunate that we don't have the mid-court high camera angle. I would think a delay of game would only be apparent if Siena (we did have possession) and Bucknell AND the baseline official (with the ball) were all positioned and had to wait for our bench to return to the stationary bench. Our guys hadn't even gotten to the free throw extended area let alone to the baseline to inbound the ball! I would also think the only official that would be sensitive to and justified in calling a "delay of game" T would be the baseline official who starts the action when he hands to ball to the inbounder. Totally BS call and I really have to give Jimmy a ton of credit for not blowing up and getting a real T. These 'points of emphasis' calls each year seem to be called early in the game - more, IMO, to allow the officiating crew the ability to show they know the rules and applied them!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 8:06:45 GMT -5
Maybe they didn't like our chairs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 8:44:33 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident everyone has an "axe to grind" with JP but you must pick your battles, this was clearly not on him.
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Post by marshotel on Nov 26, 2015 9:05:24 GMT -5
Assuming the inbounding official was in position, you can't tell from that angle, Bucknell was prepared to defend. Siena was yet to clear the back court.
By definition this was legit violation by Siena.
I am under the impression the official would issue a delay of game warning to the offending team before issuing a technical foul.
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Post by Tony on Nov 26, 2015 9:20:38 GMT -5
Assuming the inbounding official was in position, you can't tell from that angle, Bucknell was prepared to defend. Siena was yet to clear the back court. By definition this was legit violation by Siena. I am under the impression the official would issue a delay of game warning to the offending team before issuing a technical foul. Agreed it was clear violation, Bucknell players are in position ready to go, Siena players are not over center court line, although they were within a second or two of doing so. Jimmy and staff knows that was a point of emphasis this year. Hope we don't see that again this year ..but it was definitely a violation by Siena
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Post by gorvy on Nov 26, 2015 9:27:50 GMT -5
You are supposed to get a delay of game warning before the technical.
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Post by CellarRat on Nov 26, 2015 9:32:54 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident everyone has an "axe to grind" with JP but you must pick your battles, this was clearly not on him. What does this mean? Is JP not liked by the refs? On the radio broadcast Huerter was tearing apart the refs.
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Post by Quackman on Nov 26, 2015 10:36:37 GMT -5
Used to be that the refs would put the ball on the ground and start the 5 count.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 10:39:59 GMT -5
Assuming the inbounding official was in position, you can't tell from that angle, Bucknell was prepared to defend. Siena was yet to clear the back court. By definition this was legit violation by Siena. I am under the impression the official would issue a delay of game warning to the offending team before issuing a technical foul. Everyone may have a different position. But the whistle sounded and Bucknell walked to the court because the ball was at their end of the court and you can see Siena players running into position at the same time. Both teams are notified by the same whistle. Because Siena is at the other end of the court, you don’t end you time out earlier so that your players have time to take positon at the same time as the other players who are closer to the ball. Look at it again; they both ended their timeout at the same time. Bad call anyway you look at it. Siena was not in violation, in my opinion.
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Post by Tony on Nov 26, 2015 10:48:17 GMT -5
You are supposed to get a delay of game warning before the technical. We don't know if Patsos already received one- he didn't complain much so I assume he already received warning
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 26, 2015 10:59:44 GMT -5
Assuming the inbounding official was in position, you can't tell from that angle, Bucknell was prepared to defend. Siena was yet to clear the back court. By definition this was legit violation by Siena. I am under the impression the official would issue a delay of game warning to the offending team before issuing a technical foul. Then be a dick official, put the ball down, and begin your 5-count. ps--the team was on the court. if the NCAA wants to fix something, they shouldn't let teams sit on the court
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Post by Tony on Nov 26, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -5
Assuming the inbounding official was in position, you can't tell from that angle, Bucknell was prepared to defend. Siena was yet to clear the back court. By definition this was legit violation by Siena. I am under the impression the official would issue a delay of game warning to the offending team before issuing a technical foul. Everyone may have a different position. But the whistle sounded and Bucknell walked to the court because the ball was at their end of the court and you can see Siena players running into position at the same time. Both teams are notified by the same whistle. Because Siena is at the other end of the court, you don’t end you time out earlier so that your players have time to take positon at the same time as the other players who are closer to the ball. Look at it again; they both ended their timeout at the same time. Bad call anyway you look at it. Siena was not in violation, in my opinion. I'm going to agree to disagree with you-- Siena players were walking and didn't start running till after referee blew the whistle- Siena players were clearly on wrong side of half court, were walking.. Coaches were told this would be a point of emphasis, and to be assessed a technical. Jimbo would have already had been warned..so while I agree it seems over the top- everyone knew that was point of emphasis this year. No big deal- just don't let it happen again this year
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