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Post by Tony on Nov 25, 2015 17:11:34 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:31:08 GMT -5
That long bench isn't looking so long to me right now. I see 6-7 guys doing most of the work. Silas is starting to come along and be the 7th. I had hoped for a little more. Like I said, maybe LaRose or Paige...or change your mind on WB. Wormley isn't even hardly driving and he's got a 1-5 assist ratio thru 5 games. He's shooting 2-7...with just 1 steal. And he's fouling a lot. This kid just doesn't look ready. I mean Clareth is turning it over but it's because he's making stuff happen. Wormley is playing a bit like a dead fish. Wright can't even take a minute off. How long can that last? It's almost like MB2 all over again with Hymes. Paige is a better rebounder than Fisher is right now. 3 boards in 46 mins. Eek. some people are never happy. I think most of us are aware of where our team has to improve and how players have to grow individually. Can't you chill out just a little with the rhetoric for a short time and enjoy a great win "in spite of", for one night? No. There's no rest. Must analyze.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:31:11 GMT -5
What you say is, as usual, true Tony but, hell it's fun to once again have RPI mentioned in discussions about our Saints. It's been so damn long since we've had that, I forgot how to spell RPI.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:32:09 GMT -5
Currently have 5 guys avg double figures, ( Quis, Lavon, JO, Brett and Nico ) that’s called balance folks- add in Kenny, Ryan , Imoh and you have your top 8—Evan will play spot min – that is your top 9 ( currently) and it’s not even close after that= Kinnon, Paige and Cam won’t play much unless garbage time or heaven forbids injuries. With 3 freshmen in playing group, team has a lot of room to grow Kinnon has more assists than our starting PG. And no turnovers to go with them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:33:34 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks I won't say Kenpom's latest prediction until the new game thread starts. No need to apologize to KK though. That arse left the board.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:43:39 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks Better yet if they're using data from last year and the rpi is as high as it is. Enjoy it now, win or lose after Loyola, the rpi will drop. A win against Hofstra will be a booster, once we hit MAAC play it's nowhere but down.
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Post by nolesaint on Nov 25, 2015 17:53:29 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks Right, at this point it's kind of like recruiting - We'd rather the team have a high ranking than not just as we'd rather the coaches recruits are highly rated and they're in tough recruiting battle for them. However, in the end what matters is the team's ranking at the end of the season and how the signed recruits pan out on the court for the Saints.
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 25, 2015 20:25:04 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks I won't say Kenpom's latest prediction until the new game thread starts. No need to apologize to KK though. That arse left the board. I miss KK. This old fart from 78 is a wannabe
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 25, 2015 22:16:49 GMT -5
I won't say Kenpom's latest prediction until the new game thread starts. No need to apologize to KK though. That arse left the board. I miss KK. This old fart from 78 is a wannabe SaintKK isnt KK?
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Post by hockeyguy on Nov 25, 2015 23:56:37 GMT -5
Correct don't pay much attention to RPI till we get into December -- and even then it’s pretty volatile till around Christmas -- So while it’s great to be ranked decently in RPI right now , it’s basically fool’s gold if you think it means anything ( good or bad) - Ken Pom and Sagarins still uses data from last year till they get enough games this year ( usually in beginning of December ) So with all due apologies to KK Ken Pom and Sagarins are pretty useless also for rankings – have to do it the old fashion way—with your eyes..LOL for at least another 10 days to 2 weeks Better yet if they're using data from last year and the rpi is as high as it is. Enjoy it now, win or lose after Loyola, the rpi will drop. A win against Hofstra will be a booster, once we hit MAAC play it's nowhere but down. Let me get this straight... If RPI is 25% your record and 50% your opponents records and let's just say hypothetically .. Siena, Duke and Wisconsin all run the table from here on out.. Siena's RPI will go down? Is that correct?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 5:59:48 GMT -5
Siena win the rest of the remaining games? Duke and Wisconsin aren't the only factors. Look at the teams we play twice strength of schedule and their rpi rank. Yeah, our rpi will fall.
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Post by CellarRat on Nov 29, 2015 8:48:42 GMT -5
Yep. I was saying that on another thread and I was told I was wrong. People don't get that a big part of the RPI is SOS.
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