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Post by Tony on May 1, 2015 10:46:56 GMT -5
You guys should be AD's a few days ago we needed a wing, now its this guy doesn't have right skill set for you. As for Porter nice you guys have him labeled a star-- not everyone shares your sterling talent evaluation
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Porter played with a lot of energy but was often a liability on the offensive end. He’s a solid rim protector but barely weighs 200 pounds and isn’t the type who can fight for rebounds in the low blocks
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 10:50:24 GMT -5
You guys should be AD's a few days ago we needed a wing, now its this guy doesn't have right skill set for you. As for Porter nice you guys have him labeled a star-- not everyone shares your sterling talent evaluation here is another Porter played with a lot of energy but was often a liability on the offensive end. He’s a solid rim protector but barely weighs 200 pounds and isn’t the type who can fight for rebounds in the low blocks I already read that. A fan wrote that I think. He's skinny but HE WAS A FROSH. You guys loved JO. His blocking and rebounding rates are better than JO's best year to date and he played at a higher level. And he's gonna sit out and bulk up for a year. Playing inside for Hewitt and playing inside for Patsos are 2 different things. Silas isn't exactly a scoring superstar either but we clearly still needed him didn't we? Kenpom would certainly agree.
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Post by Sienafan on May 1, 2015 11:01:04 GMT -5
Is that how you would recruit as a coach? Put all your eggs in one basket and hope it works out? No, you put out multiple offers for the same position you're trying to fill to increase your chances of landing someone. Whether it's Porter, Lieb, or someone else, the team needs some insurance in the frontcourt. We have no assurances that Bisping's ankle or Silas's knee will hold up a whole season. And you know what happened the last time they were lost. The team would otherwise be left with WB, Fisher, and Long as the sole frontcourt players taller than 6'6. Patsos is committed to Long at the 3 the next 2 seasons. So you are not going to get the next Edwin Ubiles to agree to sit behind him two seasons. Next season is the time to land a stud 3. A lot of playing time as a freshman can be promised to a 2016 recruit due to Long's fouling issues, and then the starting job is available by said recruit's second season. I like the moves Patsos is making here. Tell me. Who do you think is gonna be able to block 40+ shots on this team after Silas is gone? Putting all our eggs in one basket? Why can't we put at least 1 egg in the shotblocking basket? Just one...pretty please? Tell me: how many shots has Lieb blocked in H.S...do you even know? Before your judge Porter the better option, consider that he's 6'10, 200. A bean pole. At 6'9. 230, Lieb sounds like he'd be a lot more intimidating inside to me. Lastly, Porter has to sit next season. What good is he if Bisping and/or Silas go down again? I think the team needs someone playable next season if they are going to pursue a 5. Here's GMU blogger Ryan Kish's take on Porter (and he's seen a lot more of him than any of us): On a team in desperate need of guards it is no surprise to me that one of the forwards didn’t see themselves fitting in Dave Paulsen’s scheme. Porter played with a lot of energy but was often a liability on the offensive end. He’s a solid rim protector but barely weighs 200 pounds and isn’t the type who can fight for rebounds in the low blocks. He does possess a lot of athletic ability though and in the right situation he can be a solid contributor. - See more at: gmuhoops.co/2015/04/22/trey-porter-is-transferring/#sthash.EOptBlTu.dpufThat's just what Siena needs, a 5 who doesn't rebound.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:03:26 GMT -5
Tell me. Who do you think is gonna be able to block 40+ shots on this team after Silas is gone? Putting all our eggs in one basket? Why can't we put at least 1 egg in the shotblocking basket? Just one...pretty please? Tell me: how many shots has Lieb blocked in H.S...do you even know? Before your judge Porter the better option, consider that he's 6'10, 200. A bean pole. At 6'9. 230, Lieb sounds like he'd be a lot more intimidating inside to me. Lastly, Porter has to sit next season. What good is he if Bisping and/or Silas go down again? I think the team needs someone playable next season if they are going to pursue a 5. Here's GMU blogger Ryan Kish's take on Porter (and he's seen a lot more of him than any of us): On a team in desperate need of guards it is no surprise to me that one of the forwards didn’t see themselves fitting in Dave Paulsen’s scheme. Porter played with a lot of energy but was often a liability on the offensive end. He’s a solid rim protector but barely weighs 200 pounds and isn’t the type who can fight for rebounds in the low blocks. He does possess a lot of athletic ability though and in the right situation he can be a solid contributor. - See more at: gmuhoops.co/2015/04/22/trey-porter-is-transferring/#sthash.EOptBlTu.dpufThat's just what Siena needs, a 5 who doesn't rebound. So you wanted to get rid of JO then? The kid was a FRESHMAN. Think about what you thought of JO's frosh year or RyRo's frosh year.
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Post by Tony on May 1, 2015 11:05:25 GMT -5
You guys should be AD's a few days ago we needed a wing, now its this guy doesn't have right skill set for you. As for Porter nice you guys have him labeled a star-- not everyone shares your sterling talent evaluation here is another Porter played with a lot of energy but was often a liability on the offensive end. He’s a solid rim protector but barely weighs 200 pounds and isn’t the type who can fight for rebounds in the low blocks I already read that. A fan wrote that I think. He's skinny but HE WAS A FROSH. You guys loved JO. His blocking and rebounding rates are better than JO's best year to date and he played at a higher level. And he's gonna sit out and bulk up for a year. Playing inside for Hewitt and playing inside for Patsos are 2 different things. Silas isn't exactly a scoring superstar either but we clearly still needed him didn't we? Kenpom would certainly agree. What makes you think the tires weren't kicked on Porter and there was no interest in coming north on his part? and forget these silly stat rates per 40 min-- you told us Olivers were better than Poole-- I told you big difference since Poole was primary focus of defense-- stats have their place in game. Stat per 40 min of action is one of most useless stats in game( as we saw in Oliver last year) all I can say is I'm fine with the offer, I hope we land Jack.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 1, 2015 11:10:22 GMT -5
If you can't see the shotblocking ability in this kid from the video, I can't help you.....
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:11:48 GMT -5
I already read that. A fan wrote that I think. He's skinny but HE WAS A FROSH. You guys loved JO. His blocking and rebounding rates are better than JO's best year to date and he played at a higher level. And he's gonna sit out and bulk up for a year. Playing inside for Hewitt and playing inside for Patsos are 2 different things. Silas isn't exactly a scoring superstar either but we clearly still needed him didn't we? Kenpom would certainly agree. What makes you think the tires weren't kicked on Porter and there was no interest in coming north on his part? and forget these silly stat rates per 40 min-- you told us Olivers were better than Poole-- I told you big difference since Poole was primary focus of defense-- stats have their place in game. Stat per 40 min of action is one of most useless stats in game( as we saw in Oliver last year) all I can say is I'm fine with the offer, I hope we land Jack. What are you talking about? I said Oliver's efficiency stats were very close to Poole's. They still are. They shoot about the same, they both take care of the ball... Why am I not allowed to disagree with you like ever?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:14:07 GMT -5
If you can't see the shotblocking ability in this kid from the video, I can't help you..... I see like 3 blocks in that video. You're basing it entirely off of that. I'm not even saying he's not a good shotblocker. I'm saying there's a guy who is more of sure thing as a shotblocker right over here. That's it. I just want to know that we at least called the kid.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 1, 2015 11:38:44 GMT -5
If you can't see the shotblocking ability in this kid from the video, I can't help you..... I see like 3 blocks in that video. You're basing it entirely off of that. I'm not even saying he's not a good shotblocker. I'm saying there's a guy who is more of sure thing as a shotblocker right over here. That's it. I just want to know that we at least called the kid. I just watched the entire video again, and counted 16 blocks. You said there was 3. Now I see why I can't help you
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:44:49 GMT -5
I see like 3 blocks in that video. You're basing it entirely off of that. I'm not even saying he's not a good shotblocker. I'm saying there's a guy who is more of sure thing as a shotblocker right over here. That's it. I just want to know that we at least called the kid. I just watched the entire video again, and counted 16 blocks. You said there was 3. Now I see why I can't help you So I exaggerated for emphasis. You'll see a lot of blocks in Bisping's highlight reel too. It doesn't mean he's a great D1 shotblocker. I'd rather have the more sure thing than just settle for the maybe.
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Post by IndianSaint on May 1, 2015 11:58:18 GMT -5
VC reports Siena offers Jeff Dowtin, 6-3 PG from St John's HS in DC. Some CAA & A10 interest among the others.
Sorry wrong thread, it's for 2016. I was in the wrong thread. That & saint misbehaving already posted it awhile ago. Man, I'm losing it today.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 1, 2015 12:16:58 GMT -5
I just watched the entire video again, and counted 16 blocks. You said there was 3. Now I see why I can't help you So I exaggerated for emphasis. You'll see a lot of blocks in Bisping's highlight reel too. It doesn't mean he's a great D1 shotblocker. I'd rather have the more sure thing than just settle for the maybe. So you'd rather have Blake Lively than Edith Bunker? Ahhh, if life only worked that way. Getting what we wanted. I'm impressed that you remember Bispings HS highlight reel from 4 years, and how many blocks were on it Close your eyes, and imagine if Lieb were black (McConaughey's finest moment), would he be a good "rim protector" in your eyes? Didn't you say he remonded you of RyRo? So how would getting him be a bad thing? Just becasue the kid is whie doesn't mean he has the same game as Fisher and WB. Let's hope coming from Bispings AAU team (Wolves) gives us a little edge down the stretch here.
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Post by Tony on May 1, 2015 12:21:11 GMT -5
What makes you think the tires weren't kicked on Porter and there was no interest in coming north on his part? and forget these silly stat rates per 40 min-- you told us Olivers were better than Poole-- I told you big difference since Poole was primary focus of defense-- stats have their place in game. Stat per 40 min of action is one of most useless stats in game( as we saw in Oliver last year) all I can say is I'm fine with the offer, I hope we land Jack. What are you talking about? I said Oliver's efficiency stats were very close to Poole's. They still are. They shoot about the same, they both take care of the ball... Why am I not allowed to disagree with you like ever? Whoa you can disagree with me all you want--- no matter how stupid it makes you look Any measurement that says Oliver and Poole were the same is worthless .. and anyway we digress we can agree to disagree there .. lets get back to potential recruit.. with the exception of hoopjunkie most of the people against this kid are kids that thought we needed a 3-- and personally I agree with jimmy on this..as much as I'd like a ubiles type 3-- with JO leaving, SIlas a senior and possibility Bisping could leave next year- we really need a big man-- and you arent going to sign a big man next year that can come in and play- smart move on Jimmy part-- looks to me like Jack has a huge "upside"
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Post by Tony on May 1, 2015 12:25:25 GMT -5
Looks like he missed the majority of his senior year with a knee injury. His first game was early Feb. That might explain the lack of interest in his recruitment. He's got like 12 offers now, and the list is growing. Must have had a good showing in the AAU tourney JP was at last weekend in Lexington. I guess one can hope. That list (at least the early list) is concerning hater
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 1, 2015 12:25:59 GMT -5
What are you talking about? I said Oliver's efficiency stats were very close to Poole's. They still are. They shoot about the same, they both take care of the ball... Why am I not allowed to disagree with you like ever? Whoa you can disagree with me all you want--- no matter how stupid it makes you look Any measurement that says Oliver and Poole were the same is worthless .. and anyway we digress we can agree to disagree there .. lets get back to potential recruit.. with the exception of hoopjunkie most of the people against this kid are kids that thought we needed a 3-- and personally I agree with jimmy on this..as much as I'd like a ubiles type 3-- with JO leaving, SIlas a senior and possibility Bisping could leave next year- we really need a big man-- and you arent going to sign a big man next year that can come in and play- smart move on Jimmy part-- looks to me like Jack has a huge "upside" Just for the record, I have no problem if we land this kid. I do think he'll help a lot more in '17 thna he will in '16 since he'll probably never see the floor next year with all the bigs ahead of him. This roster is still void of a legitimate scoring 3 man. We just lost 3000 points, and I'm still concerned about who scores the ball for us next year.
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