siena77
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Post by siena77 on Apr 18, 2015 8:45:28 GMT -5
Kevin's parents are smart enough to recognize the entire picture for their sons. Believe me, the fan board does not weigh into the equation, as a plus or minus. There are much, much bigger issues to consider, which I'm sure they're doing.
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Post by nolesaint on Apr 18, 2015 9:43:42 GMT -5
PC police are out in full force.... Its a FAN board where the fans discuss the good the bad and the ugly. At the end of the day we all support the players, coaches and program until such time as they prove themselves unworthy of our support. ANYONE who can't handle that deal should not play or coach in a profile D1 sport. ANYONE who wants to silence me or others for reasonable conversations about such things should think long and hard before charging into those waters for maybe we in turn will want you silenced about something you wish to discuss....
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Post by Quackman on Apr 18, 2015 12:44:33 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think a Fan Board should be the place to put down players (perspective, current or former) for their play on the court. Some of the former players and their conduct off the court is absolutely fair game. I also agree that Patsos is fair game as it comes with the territory. (Though, seems to me that many of the posts about Patsos surpass criticism and go right to agenda)
I didn't even go to Siena but I find much of the talk on this board to be embarrassing for the school, program and alumni base, not to mention the "fans" of the program.
Do I think the board is going to entice or push away a prospective recruit, no. (Though if I am a guy that is considering Siena and I see the recruiting "experts" on this board saying I'm not good enough, I might have to think twice.)
Rob, the thing I think amazing about your statement above was that you would never have allowed the crap that goes on this board to go on when you ran it.
As always, just my 2 cents.
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Post by Tony on Apr 18, 2015 13:47:53 GMT -5
Quack- I hear where you are coming from and have made an effort to clean up the board of late. What makes it tough some of the more negative posters are long time posters. New posters like the individual that tried to smear a Siena coach ( she registered and posted on the Siena board several times) as soon as she posted I deleted her message and banned her- after a while she got tired of it and went to that idiot Soup’s cesspool board, where not only did Soup and Widespread panic allow it they repeated it. ( not only that the idiot Soup tried to repeat it on the Siena board thats why I immediately banned him) I believe legal action was threatened against the moderators of the cesspool board for the slander- so new posters are easy to keep in line on the Siena board . But all said I’ll try to do a better job of keeping the board a bit more positive. Hopefully we get some positive news to post about!!
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Post by bagger on Apr 18, 2015 13:50:40 GMT -5
back to the topic, Doug Sherman reported last night that Fran offered KH for Iowa, maybe be old news
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Post by Tony on Apr 18, 2015 13:55:19 GMT -5
back to the topic, Doug Sherman reported last night that Fran offered KH for Iowa, maybe be old news No I don't think Fran has officially offered him-- so good for KH-- kid gets more major offers almost every day,
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 18, 2015 14:42:38 GMT -5
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Post by saintsandeagles on Apr 18, 2015 14:42:53 GMT -5
Question: are these offers contingent on a year of prep school?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 6:49:22 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think a Fan Board should be the place to put down players (perspective, current or former) for their play on the court. Some of the former players and their conduct off the court is absolutely fair game. I also agree that Patsos is fair game as it comes with the territory. (Though, seems to me that many of the posts about Patsos surpass criticism and go right to agenda) I didn't even go to Siena but I find much of the talk on this board to be embarrassing for the school, program and alumni base, not to mention the "fans" of the program. Do I think the board is going to entice or push away a prospective recruit, no. (Though if I am a guy that is considering Siena and I see the recruiting "experts" on this board saying I'm not good enough, I might have to think twice.) Rob, the thing I think amazing about your statement above was that you would never have allowed the crap that goes on this board to go on when you ran it. As always, just my 2 cents. Good post. I really don't think the vast majority of our posters try to "put down" players when critiquing their court play. Most are expressing their frustration when improvements/changes they'd like to see, appear not to be being worked on. The "strength" of the negativity is usually proportional to how long the element has been under the microscope - many recent examples pop out - OD and FT's, Evan attacking the trees, careless unforced TO's by many, Maurice's missed bunnies, and LL's fouling issues. I sit near a rather vocal fan who doesn't like the negativity on the board but constantly, loudly and repeatedly, bemoans many aspects of the team from behind our bench during most games - has a constant theme that implies players aren't trying to make FT's or that coaches don't know the other team's shooters, etc. What irks me is the desire to fit criticism into neat little boxes rather than look at the basis for it - from long standing experience I know when I support a coach or criticize a coach those actions fit my imagined agenda's. Easier to criticize the poster than address the sum and substance of the comment on their own merits. Personal attacks should never be made but it seems that certain posters are immune from that constraint and immediately go into negative personal comments on the poster while completely ignoring the critique that prompted the response. As to the board's impact on potential recruits, I do know for a fact that when Basabee was considering coming to play for Fran, his coach and family were regular readers of this board. Posters run the risk of saying something that is counter to the reported "coach's speak" that many D1 coaches employ to entice a commitment - e.g., PT, position played, starting role, etc. A parent reading that some of our "experts" think a kid is D2 or that there is a player sitting in front of their son for a year or two and they may rethink what they think they heard the coach say in their living room.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Apr 20, 2015 15:37:31 GMT -5
If this is the 6'5 pg its a no brainer....that is HM size for position.
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Post by siena12077 on Apr 20, 2015 21:52:31 GMT -5
GG your post will just be deleted and you will be banned
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Post by Tony on Apr 21, 2015 4:09:25 GMT -5
GG was banned as usual he is wrong but hey nothing new, the level of GG's obsession with Siena and Siena fans is mind boggling and yes I did call GG an idiot-- he was shooting his mouth off on all his 'inside" information about all the Siena transfers that were about to happen, funny part is after shooting his mouth off for a few weeks Zach Lewis transfers from Canisius -guess his inside sources did not warn him of that. So as far as GG being an idiot - if the shoe fits I'm actually doing GG a favor by banning him, the poor tortured soul spends hours on this and the MAAC board daily- he makes MTS look like a light poster with his sheer volume of the time he spends on MAAC boards Twitter etc mainly all in search of something to pin on Siena or Siena fans, he is one sick obsessed individual. Oh well all the best GG-
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Post by SaintsFan on Apr 22, 2015 7:26:52 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think a Fan Board should be the place to put down players (perspective, current or former) for their play on the court. Some of the former players and their conduct off the court is absolutely fair game. I also agree that Patsos is fair game as it comes with the territory. (Though, seems to me that many of the posts about Patsos surpass criticism and go right to agenda) I didn't even go to Siena but I find much of the talk on this board to be embarrassing for the school, program and alumni base, not to mention the "fans" of the program. Do I think the board is going to entice or push away a prospective recruit, no. (Though if I am a guy that is considering Siena and I see the recruiting "experts" on this board saying I'm not good enough, I might have to think twice.) Rob, the thing I think amazing about your statement above was that you would never have allowed the crap that goes on this board to go on when you ran it. As always, just my 2 cents. Good post. I really don't think the vast majority of our posters try to "put down" players when critiquing their court play. Most are expressing their frustration when improvements/changes they'd like to see, appear not to be being worked on. The "strength" of the negativity is usually proportional to how long the element has been under the microscope - many recent examples pop out - OD and FT's, Evan attacking the trees, careless unforced TO's by many, Maurice's missed bunnies, and LL's fouling issues. I sit near a rather vocal fan who doesn't like the negativity on the board but constantly, loudly and repeatedly, bemoans many aspects of the team from behind our bench during most games - has a constant theme that implies players aren't trying to make FT's or that coaches don't know the other team's shooters, etc. What irks me is the desire to fit criticism into neat little boxes rather than look at the basis for it - from long standing experience I know when I support a coach or criticize a coach those actions fit my imagined agenda's. Easier to criticize the poster than address the sum and substance of the comment on their own merits. Personal attacks should never be made but it seems that certain posters are immune from that constraint and immediately go into negative personal comments on the poster while completely ignoring the critique that prompted the response. As to the board's impact on potential recruits, I do know for a fact that when Basabee was considering coming to play for Fran, his coach and family were regular readers of this board. Posters run the risk of saying something that is counter to the reported "coach's speak" that many D1 coaches employ to entice a commitment - e.g., PT, position played, starting role, etc. A parent reading that some of our "experts" think a kid is D2 or that there is a player sitting in front of their son for a year or two and they may rethink what they think they heard the coach say in their living room. I can think of a few players I've called D2 that I wish had done some rethinking
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 22, 2015 8:33:30 GMT -5
Heurter had Michigan coach Beilein at this house last night. Guessing he got an offer.
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Post by Tony on Apr 22, 2015 13:41:32 GMT -5
Heurter had Michigan coach Beilein at this house last night. Guessing he got an offer. The kid is a nice player, has good potential - but he is not a MM+ or HM recruit and people in his family think he is. Soup on Mar 15th 2015-- Seriously how big an idiot does Soup look like right now?
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