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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 28, 2015 16:13:51 GMT -5
yews SaintsFan you are right. Long is a good enough player where if he was surrounded by other players with speed and athleticism he would be a much better contributor. Difference between this year and last obviously Besping and Silas. Mid season injuries to Poole and Long. Same coach's? Obviously they want to win. Game tonight some of the kids were hustling others not so much. Question for the herd here is it the coach's, kids, injuries or a culmination there of. I think it's all the above and maybe even things we haven't considered. I'm a broken record re: injuries, transfers, lack of development (various reasons - don't, can't, aren't being taught, whole list of possibilities), playing out of position (why - talent, injuries, no choice, have choice but choose to do it this way), overall talent, does talent fit coaching style, does coaching style work with or without talent, is coach good or not, etc. I believe there's some reasons above that have valid excuses for this year. Maybe I'm too generous as a fan and I'm holding back progression so we can get a new coach. I believe the verdict is still out and don't necessarily think the school should make a rash decision either (especially one that costs us financially). On the other hand I'll support what ever the majority wants, but until then I'll continue to support the team/coach by cheering them on just like the rest of you are doing. Wow, have you noticed that I'm really talkative (or opinionated) today. I wonder why. No seriously, I wonder why.
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 28, 2015 16:19:47 GMT -5
I can see no competitive drive anymore .... Mentally the team finished the season 4 or 5 games ago ... Appears they are only going through the motions hoping to put this season to bed early and that it will become a distant memory Sitting behind them last night, I felt the same way. They look exhausted (hell, who wouldn't be from all of that running in and out with the substitutions) and frustrated. The last time I saw this demeanor was two years ago in Springfield during the tournament. Some look like they would rather be anywhere, doing anything else. UGH! On a side note, nice of the MAAC on Thursday to have a 'flash sale' on all session tournament passes. People were able to get seats in lower bowl sections for all games @ 55.00. Another slap in the face to the die hard fans in this league. I saw a glimpse of you (and I think Barb) on the game (recorded game & watched it after coming home from the Women's home game).
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 28, 2015 20:54:05 GMT -5
I'm not so upset about the flash sale. It's business. People who bought early had best shot at good seats. No one told anyone to buy early. Same people pitching would b the same ones who complain the $55 seats are in the corners and not center court. I purchased my MAAC all session tickets when first offered by Siena (not TUC). That way I get seats closer. If we had won 20+ games the lower bowl would have been sold out and we wouldn't probably having this discussion (since there wouldn't be any left -except the sections saved for each school before they opened to public). It's good to see the TUC try and make some money for available seats.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 28, 2015 22:55:43 GMT -5
Why didn'tthe Siena season ticket people send us season ticket holders out an email alerting us to this sale? The sale was only advertised on the MAAC website, and quite frankly, I doubt that the Siena Season ticket people knew of or had anything to do with it. I saw it on the MAAC board and went to look for myself and there it was on Thursday, down on Friday. It's just more icing on the cake, really.. increased price of season tickets + saints alive donation (where applicable)+banquet moved to Monday night prior to tournament+no seniors to speak+combo with women's team+increase dinner to 80.00(reception 225.00)+watching your all session pass get chopped to less than half price+pitiful season record in the .380 range (fill in your own reasons here) = CUSTOMERS who could spend the thousands that this adds up to elsewhere. the Syracuse banquet is only $85 and includes a reception, player autograph session and a silent auction before dinner. Not sure if you can bid on boeheims silence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 6:28:38 GMT -5
The sale was only advertised on the MAAC website, and quite frankly, I doubt that the Siena Season ticket people knew of or had anything to do with it. I saw it on the MAAC board and went to look for myself and there it was on Thursday, down on Friday. It's just more icing on the cake, really.. increased price of season tickets + saints alive donation (where applicable)+banquet moved to Monday night prior to tournament+no seniors to speak+combo with women's team+increase dinner to 80.00(reception 225.00)+watching your all session pass get chopped to less than half price+pitiful season record in the .380 range (fill in your own reasons here) = CUSTOMERS who could spend the thousands that this adds up to elsewhere. the Syracuse banquet is only $85 and includes a reception, player autograph session and a silent auction before dinner. Not sure if you can bid on boeheims silence. They also raffle off cars returned by departing players!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:05:53 GMT -5
Anyone worried about losing Poole and Hymes needs to have a mental evaluation, they are losers and dont know how to win. I dont want to hear this 1000 point shit, who cares about individual accomplishments when the team does not win? this team is better with out them and adding more hard nosed athletic players. Dont get me started on Long, he is not a 3 and needs to stop fouling, the coaching staff keeps telling him and coaching him but he does not or cannot make the adjustment. Its not only the players the coaching staff screwed us fans by taking a year off and recruiting 2 role players and not filling our needs of athleticism, speed and overall basketball IQ. I am a 20 year season ticket holder and fan, so I think I can say what I want. Now all of you can rip this post apart but wow this team needs improvement in all categories. Gotta be honest here. Siena doesn't need a fan like you. Frustrated yes. Tough season yes. Calling two seniors losers because they didn't win based on 109 factors that didn't have anything to do w them is flat out wrong. Critique their game or the team firing shots at 20 year olds as losers is wrong. UA could use some fans move your ass to sefcu. Soon enough there won't be many fans left.You'll need to keep Siena7127 around. 52-79 thus far for Poole and Hymes. Impressive stuff.
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Post by siena95 on Mar 1, 2015 20:10:09 GMT -5
Yeah because it's all their faults.
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Post by siena7127 on Mar 1, 2015 20:10:30 GMT -5
Anyone worried about losing Poole and Hymes needs to have a mental evaluation, they are losers and dont know how to win. I dont want to hear this 1000 point shit, who cares about individual accomplishments when the team does not win? this team is better with out them and adding more hard nosed athletic players. Dont get me started on Long, he is not a 3 and needs to stop fouling, the coaching staff keeps telling him and coaching him but he does not or cannot make the adjustment. Its not only the players the coaching staff screwed us fans by taking a year off and recruiting 2 role players and not filling our needs of athleticism, speed and overall basketball IQ. I am a 20 year season ticket holder and fan, so I think I can say what I want. Now all of you can rip this post apart but wow this team needs improvement in all categories. Gotta be honest here. Siena doesn't need a fan like you. Frustrated yes. Tough season yes. Calling two seniors losers because they didn't win based on 109 factors that didn't have anything to do w them is flat out wrong. Critique their game or the team firing shots at 20 year olds as losers is wrong. UA could use some fans move your ass to sefcu. Not Calling them losers as people, simply stating that they don't know how to win. Some kids just don't know how to, and that's ok they are great kids and will be successful in whatever they do. Soon enough I may be 1 of 1500 people in the stands like I was during the Beyer years. So yes Siena needs a fan like me...
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Post by siena95 on Mar 1, 2015 20:13:20 GMT -5
Gotta be honest here. Siena doesn't need a fan like you. Frustrated yes. Tough season yes. Calling two seniors losers because they didn't win based on 109 factors that didn't have anything to do w them is flat out wrong. Critique their game or the team firing shots at 20 year olds as losers is wrong. UA could use some fans move your ass to sefcu. Not Calling them losers as people, simply stating that they don't know how to win. Some kids just don't know how to, and that's ok they are great kids and will be successful in whatever they do. Soon enough I may be 1 of 1500 people in the stands like I was during the Beyer years. So yes Siena needs a fan like me... Fair enough. Ur post sounded or came off a personal.
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Post by siena95 on Mar 1, 2015 20:14:45 GMT -5
Gotta be honest here. Siena doesn't need a fan like you. Frustrated yes. Tough season yes. Calling two seniors losers because they didn't win based on 109 factors that didn't have anything to do w them is flat out wrong. Critique their game or the team firing shots at 20 year olds as losers is wrong. UA could use some fans move your ass to sefcu. Not Calling them losers as people, simply stating that they don't know how to win. Some kids just don't know how to, and that's ok they are great kids and will be successful in whatever they do. Soon enough I may be 1 of 1500 people in the stands like I was during the Beyer years. So yes Siena needs a fan like me... I went through the Beyer era too. Remember it being so bad u could hear conversations of people across the arena. Lol.
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Post by siena7127 on Mar 1, 2015 20:23:05 GMT -5
Not Calling them losers as people, simply stating that they don't know how to win. Some kids just don't know how to, and that's ok they are great kids and will be successful in whatever they do. Soon enough I may be 1 of 1500 people in the stands like I was during the Beyer years. So yes Siena needs a fan like me... I went through the Beyer era too. Remember it being so bad u could hear conversations of people across the arena. Lol. I actually remember falling asleep at games it was so bad...let's hope it does not get to that lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 20:24:14 GMT -5
I will actually be better prepared - I'm on blood pressure meds now!
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