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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:08:30 GMT -5
Only on a basketball level... he is talented for sure but if you causing issues with the team it doesn't really matter now does it? Nope good try to go back on it. He goes from being the best player on the team in your words to addition by subtraction. Quite a backtrack. It's nice that on the day of his suspension, he's already being crucified. If there was a chance of his return , this thread is killing it. Franciscan values!
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Post by sienasaint3 on Dec 19, 2014 13:11:18 GMT -5
Nope good try to go back on it. He goes from being the best player on the team in your words to addition by subtraction. Quite a backtrack. It's nice that on the day of his suspension, he's already being crucified. If there was a chance of his return , this thread is killing it. Franciscan values! I didnt say a word about Cole. I dont know him personally. I was more poking holes in MTS's comment on Cole killing the teams confidence. I also dont speculate on Cole being a team killer like MTS.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
This was obviously necessary to make room for Cam's ship
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:44:40 GMT -5
It's nice that on the day of his suspension, he's already being crucified. If there was a chance of his return , this thread is killing it. Franciscan values! I didnt say a word about Cole. I dont know him personally. I was more poking holes in MTS's comment on Cole killing the teams confidence. I also dont speculate on Cole being a team killer like MTS. My apologies. I'm on my phone and clicked "quote" on the wrong post. I was attempting to address MTS as well.
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Post by siena70 on Dec 19, 2014 13:57:45 GMT -5
Nope good try to go back on it. He goes from being the best player on the team in your words to addition by subtraction. Quite a backtrack. It's nice that on the day of his suspension, he's already being crucified. If there was a chance of his return , this thread is killing it. Franciscan values! I can't resist. F---K "Franciscan Values"! Every time somebody at Siena screws up they claim immunity under "Franciscan Values" Cole has been at Siena for more than 1 year and nobody knew about this guy? Also, until Cam leaves without a scholarship, I believe that JP promised a scholarship. Of course it pays to create IOU's in the Div I coaching industry. You never know. It appears that because of some things JP did, and some that he probably had no control over, the wheels are starting to come off the bus. On a recent Siena site video I some co-ed "interviewing " Broter Couglin on the state os Siena athletics. This is about the lamest interview I've ever seen. Not a single question on the men's basketball team, A-10 conference realignment. or the hiring or firing of the PW. More " Franciscan Values" bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 14:03:59 GMT -5
It's nice that on the day of his suspension, he's already being crucified. If there was a chance of his return , this thread is killing it. Franciscan values! I can't resist. F---K "Franciscan Values"! Every time somebody at Siena screws up they claim immunity under "Franciscan Values" Cole has been at Siena for more than 1 year and nobody knew about this guy? Also, until Cam leaves without a scholarship, I believe that JP promised a scholarship. Of course it pays to create IOU's in the Div I coaching industry. You never know. It appears that because of some things JP did, and some that he probably had no control over, the wheels are starting to come off the bus. On a recent Siena site video I some co-ed "interviewing " Broter Couglin on the state os Siena athletics. This is about the lamest interview I've ever seen. Not a single question on the men's basketball team, A-10 conference realignment. or the hiring or firing of the PW. More " Franciscan Values" bullshit. I was being facetious. I agree with you about "Franciscan values". But many here use the term to protect certain players and coaches while they mindlessly attack others. Pat Cole is still part of the program at this time, if we can't say anything negative about Hymes, Bisping, etc, nothing should be posted about Cole.
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Post by hankla on Dec 19, 2014 14:04:29 GMT -5
In the tradition of Bush/Obama how long can all this be blamed on the last coach? You don't think he put a curse on the program do you?
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 19, 2014 14:28:03 GMT -5
no not all is lost, but yet another throw away season..... getting old. I agree but at the same time... as others have stated... Fran was left some talent. In particular, talent that could compete in the MAAC (i.e. guards). Mitch left Patsos a bunch of guard/forwards who aren't quick enough to play the two and zero pgs. If I had any issues it would be that we haven't signed a really good shooting guard yet. Patsos knows the MAAC and should know that a quick athletic guard was and continues to be a missing ingredient. Siena essentially has Poole, Cole, Oliver, White who are all really SFs being forced into the SG role. I know it's only two classes but he hasn't recruited well in my opinion, 2 maybe 3 solid players. The rest are role players, better step it up soon or it'll be bye bye Jimmy. BTW if JP gives a ship to Cam he should be fired on the spot. The kids a DII player / walk on. Considering the state of this team it would be just stupid. Don't need favors for Daddy while siena basketball is in such a sorry state.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 19, 2014 15:34:14 GMT -5
41 fouls until one of the Walk ons have to play
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 19, 2014 16:11:43 GMT -5
In the tradition of Bush/Obama how long can all this be blamed on the last coach? You don't think he put a curse on the program do you? Mitch is no Bush and JP is no Obama. At least I hope not!
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Post by IndianSaint on Dec 19, 2014 16:14:41 GMT -5
Per Mark Singelais tweet he did not make the trip and it is expected to be announced that he has been suspended. That's too bad, I was hoping he'd be able to help the team out. Well I hope he gets his priorities in order to either help the team or straighten out what ever they are if it's not the team.
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Post by greenandgold on Dec 19, 2014 16:21:33 GMT -5
In the tradition of Bush/Obama how long can all this be blamed on the last coach? You don't think he put a curse on the program do you? Mitch is no Bush and JP is no Obama. At least I hope not! Very insightful. Thank you.
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Post by IndianSaint on Dec 19, 2014 16:56:16 GMT -5
TU updated its blog.
"Siena said Cole is welcome to return to school when classes resume on Jan 12. Patsos did not set a timetable for his return to the basketball program."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 16:57:58 GMT -5
TU updated its blog. "Siena said Cole is welcome to return to school when classes resume on Jan 12. Patsos did not set a timetable for his return to the basketball program." Coach speak for he ain't setting foot around Loudonville anytime soon.
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Post by greenblood on Dec 19, 2014 17:10:00 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Edge here.
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