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Post by siena7127 on Dec 14, 2014 15:25:22 GMT -5
Last year this team had very little talent but played tough, smart and was in almost every game.
This year- team still has very limited talent (wright and WB are the talents) but they don't play hard any more, I feel like they have not earned the right to win with the lack luster efforts. Yes, some of this is coaching (JP and co is not doing the best job) but I still think this team is digging out of the talent hole Mitch left. The upperclassmen are nothing better then role players and play soft, like they are ok ending there college career with a shitty season bc they won a CBI last year. It was apparent last night that Poole and Oliver cannot create shots and are very slow. JO is really soft, Hymes has no respect from his teammates, Long in a bit of a slump is better the he is showing, Cole is what he is and White and Paige are still developing not sure how or where they fit yet.
I guess what I am saying is this team started out limited and are even more so without Brett and Silas. I also think the team is a full 2 years away from being any good. Need a big shot of talent. I almost just want to start a rebuild and take the lumps. Play Poole and Hymes sparingly and let White, Paige, Cole and others develop.
Let me know your thoughts, I just did not realize how hard/long of a rebuild was required. The program really was destroyed by Mitch in 3 years. No coach ever left us this bad off.
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Post by Papi on Dec 14, 2014 15:43:06 GMT -5
Do not agree. Lame excuse still blaming Mitch.
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Post by siena7127 on Dec 14, 2014 16:01:27 GMT -5
Do not agree. Lame excuse still blaming Mitch. Papi - you think the upperclassmen are leaders, and more then role players? I just want to see how this team is when it's fully Quis and Longs team.
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 14, 2014 16:01:57 GMT -5
The kids looked scared and insecure on the court. They lacked any confidence whatsoever, would it kill the coach to pat them on the ass and say hey hang in there keep playing hard and strong and it'll get better.
I don't know what the answer is but I know what I saw last night. It was like a bunch of strangers sitting down for Christmas dinner - awkward and unappealing.
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Post by siena7127 on Dec 14, 2014 16:06:07 GMT -5
The kids looked scared and insecure on the court. They lacked any confidence whatsoever, would it kill the coach to pat them on the ass and say hey hang in there keep playing hard and strong and it'll get better. I don't know what the answer is but I know what I saw last night. It was like a bunch of strangers sitting down for Christmas dinner - awkward and unappealing. Agreed. I think Jimmy has made mistakes with this group, it's not a group that responds to "tough love" but I also think good play is rewarded with a pat on the ass, not the shit last night. I see it both ways, players need confidence but a coach should not have to coddle them either, needs to land somewhere in the middle. Fran did not baby anyone, he was tough as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 16:09:00 GMT -5
Do not agree. Lame excuse still blaming Mitch. Papi - you think the upperclassmen are leaders, and more then role players? I just want to see how this team is when it's fully Quis and Longs team. Jesus, with Bisping out, only 3 players aren't Jimmy's. Why can't people accept that? It's his team.
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Post by siena7127 on Dec 14, 2014 16:13:58 GMT -5
Papi - you think the upperclassmen are leaders, and more then role players? I just want to see how this team is when it's fully Quis and Longs team. Jesus, with Bisping out, only 3 players aren't Jimmy's. Why can't people accept that? It's his team. All "his" players are underclassmen that is my point, "his" guys are not ready to be "the"guys yet. I think they can all grow into those guys but right now we are lacking those upperclassmen leader that says I have balls and I will not let us lose! Follow my lead and let's win!
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Post by siena7127 on Dec 14, 2014 16:16:21 GMT -5
Btw I still think JP n co are doing a shitty job this season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 16:19:07 GMT -5
Jesus, with Bisping out, only 3 players aren't Jimmy's. Why can't people accept that? It's his team. All "his" players are underclassmen that is my point, "his" guys are not ready to be "the"guys yet. I think they can all grow into those guys but right now we are lacking those upperclassmen leader that says I have balls and I will not let us lose! Follow my lead and let's win! He was in the MAAC 9 years, he knew what he inherited. He built this team. If his guys aren't leaders, he recruited badly. Still on him.
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Post by Papi on Dec 14, 2014 16:21:10 GMT -5
Do not agree. Lame excuse still blaming Mitch. Papi - you think the upperclassmen are leaders, and more then role players? I just want to see how this team is when it's fully Quis and Longs team. Add JO, Cole and Wright to those two and you got 5 guys who can't shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 16:32:43 GMT -5
Papi - you think the upperclassmen are leaders, and more then role players? I just want to see how this team is when it's fully Quis and Longs team. Add JO, Cole and Wright to those two and you got 5 guys who can't shoot. Actually, 3 point shooting is one thing Siena is doing BETTER this year. They are hitting for a slightly higher % and making over 1 three per game more than last year, even with Poole and Hymes struggling and Bisping out.
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Post by Papi on Dec 14, 2014 16:37:52 GMT -5
How many made 3's are they averaging per game?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 16:47:39 GMT -5
How many made 3's are they averaging per game? Almost 6 per game. Less than 5 last year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 16:49:40 GMT -5
Btw I still think JP n co are doing a shitty job this season. That is the understatement of the year. The more I hear him talk after each loss the more I dislike him.
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Post by bigdog76 on Dec 14, 2014 17:06:07 GMT -5
Am I seeing things? Seems like opponents get into gear and shoot the lights out from three challenged and unchallenged knowingly they can get the offensive rebound. We are one and done.
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