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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 11:04:14 GMT -5
Jimmy has built the roster quite nicely and it looks to get better next year with Wormley, Fisher and potentially another recruit should another spot open up. You can NOT say with any semblance of confidence that adding Wormley and Fisher is better than having Poole, Hymes, and Silas. Losing two 1,000 pt scorers and when is all said and done...one of the best shotblockers Siena has had. Hymes is a spark but you can live with that loss if Wormley defends and manages games well. You can even deal with the loss Silas if JO learns to rebound or Brandwijk is a star. But we really need another guard. Gottfried is not that guy. Losing Poole is huge. He's big, he shoots, he creates, he rebounds, he's controlled, and he's a leader. At this point, you can't assume that anyone on the roster is going to replace that. You go get another guard. Never be guard poor in this league. Never. Mitch taught us that. Sydney taught us that. Masiello might be next. You fill your roster with guards who you think can be stars and you pray a few are. That's how you succeed in this league. In the event of injuries, I'd rather be forced to go small than forced to go big.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 11:09:49 GMT -5
If Wolfe ever got his physical and defensive games together he'd play over everyone. He's just so athletic and has so much ball skill for his size. Time is running out for him to put it all together. Could be another Davis Martens situation where he finally figures it all out with 5 games left in his career. I waited so long for Martens to get his shot. Unfortunate but true.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 1, 2014 11:54:25 GMT -5
I like the roster and how it is shaping up for the future. Size Strength and skill everywhere. I believe we have a good balance of guards wings and bigs with our new additions. Of course its tough to replace 1,000 pt scorers but they have to move on after their time is up and you do your best to make up for their departure. I will predict to the positive that Patsos has done that so far....time will tell
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Post by musicman on Oct 1, 2014 13:40:11 GMT -5
I like the roster and how it is shaping up for the future. Size Strength and skill everywhere. I believe we have a good balance of guards wings and bigs with our new additions. Of course its tough to replace 1,000 pt scorers but they have to move on after their time is up and you do your best to make up for their departure. I will predict to the positive that Patsos has done that so far....time will tell And to add to PPC's point, we haven't seen the level of improvement yet from our younger players already on our roster. This year's sophomore and junior classes have a lot of talent in it. With another full year of growth this season, we should be getting a lot more out of them in their junior and senior years. It's the sum of all the talent you have at the time, you don't compare one of our underclassman vs. Poole. I think some of these kids are going to be kicking ass in the 15-16 and 16-17 seasons. We haven't even seen people like Paige play yet. Hopefully he could end up being a bigger and stronger Rob. I can't wait to see a bigger and better White, or Oliver's improvement. You get my point. I think we are in a good place.
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Post by MTS on Oct 1, 2014 13:44:06 GMT -5
Jimmy has built the roster quite nicely and it looks to get better next year with Wormley, Fisher and potentially another recruit should another spot open up. You can NOT say with any semblance of confidence that adding Wormley and Fisher is better than having Poole, Hymes, and Silas. Losing two 1,000 pt scorers and when is all said and done...one of the best shotblockers Siena has had. Hymes is a spark but you can live with that loss if Wormley defends and manages games well. You can even deal with the loss Silas if JO learns to rebound or Brandwijk is a star. But we really need another guard. Gottfried is not that guy. Losing Poole is huge. He's big, he shoots, he creates, he rebounds, he's controlled, and he's a leader. At this point, you can't assume that anyone on the roster is going to replace that. You go get another guard. Never be guard poor in this league. Never. Mitch taught us that. Sydney taught us that. Masiello might be next. You fill your roster with guards who you think can be stars and you pray a few are. That's how you succeed in this league. In the event of injuries, I'd rather be forced to go small than forced to go big. No I'm not saying they'll replace them its just Jimmy continues to add quality players to the roster. Poole is a big loss no question. He will be tough to replace. Silas won't see much time this year I'll go on record saying. Hymes is a nice spark plug but the fact is most of his 1000 points were scored on losing teams when he had the green light to shoot all day. That said he's a senior guard so I expect solid play from Evan off the bench this year. I will agree, unless Gottfried works out, we need to sign another guard (insure, depth) for next year.
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Post by saints22 on Oct 1, 2014 14:25:28 GMT -5
Losing Poole is huge. He's big, he shoots, he creates, he rebounds, he's controlled, and he's a leader.[/quote]
He also plays defense!
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Post by indian82 on Oct 1, 2014 14:29:54 GMT -5
From a fan's perspective I can understand the desire to have a kid redshirt. I don't mean to come across harsh or on a high horse, but I will go a little bit further though and say that these are students and somebody's kids. I can certainly understand a player not wanting to take 5 years to graduate and get on with his life. From experience I know when you get into your 4th year, most kids are anxious to move on. Yes, these guys are getting a valuable education at the expense of the school (and even more so if they stay an extra year), but I caution against sounding like we're dealing with property. I know that it is not intended that way, but it sounds like it sometimes. On the same token, a coach always has that option available to him. I just hope it is a mutually agreed upon solution when it is used in most cases. Both the player and the school takes a risk when they sign in the first place.
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Post by Tony on Oct 1, 2014 16:06:38 GMT -5
Losing Poole is huge. He's big, he shoots, he creates, he rebounds, he's controlled, and he's a leader. He also plays defense! Agreed Robbie is our most consistent outside threat- and demands a lot of attention defensively by opposing team. He will be a big loss. Other two will be missed but nowhere near as much- but such is the nature of college basketball, this year is an anomaly, most years you have to replace proven performers
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Post by Sienafan on Oct 1, 2014 19:10:23 GMT -5
Wolfe has gained 13 pounds since last year (now listed at 213), so he is working on his body at least. He's one of the most athletic guys on the team. Be patient. OD Anosike didn't put it all together until his junior year.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Oct 1, 2014 19:19:42 GMT -5
I'll put Wolfe redshirting at 75%.
We definitely need a wing we can count on to hit 40%+ of his 3's. Someone preferably in the Poole/Olson mold. Tough, size and a jumper that creates space for our rim attackers.
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 1, 2014 20:42:35 GMT -5
From a fan's perspective I can understand the desire to have a kid redshirt. I don't mean to come across harsh or on a high horse, but I will go a little bit further though and say that these are students and somebody's kids. I can certainly understand a player not wanting to take 5 years to graduate and get on with his life. From experience I know when you get into your 4th year, most kids are anxious to move on. Yes, these guys are getting a valuable education at the expense of the school (and even more so if they stay an extra year), but I caution against sounding like we're dealing with property. I know that it is not intended that way, but it sounds like it sometimes. On the same token, a coach always has that option available to him. I just hope it is a mutually agreed upon solution when it is used in most cases. Both the player and the school takes a risk when they sign in the first place. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I only brought it up (again this yr) because I thought I read or even heard Jimmy say last yr that he might RS Wolfe. His reasoning then was he was a 17 yr old freshman & needed time to develope body. We witnessed last yr that Wolfe also needed time to understand system &/or Jimmy because he looked lost more often than not & got yanked more often than not. This summer reading posts it sounded like with the experience everyone else got plus the addition of WB & JP that Wolfe's time may stay the same or even drop. I drew my opinion based on what those who saw them practice or play pick-up indicated how the players were developing. I figured it might be good for him to RS so maybe we could get three productive yrs out of him. I agree the player has to agree to it, I've said that in old posts. I get some kids want to graduate in x number if yrs & may not want to RS. Just my opinion. Jimmy &/or Wolfe will do what's best for team or Wolfe. Just such a shame to waste his athletic ability we so desperately need. He could become that athletic wing people are talking about. I'm just not sure he's ready this yr, he wasn't last yr. Again, hopefully we proves me wrong for even thinking about RSing him (even if Jimmy started that idea last yr).
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Post by reils69 on Oct 2, 2014 9:34:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 14:36:34 GMT -5
Per a Mark Singelais tweet: JO is currently the starting center per Jimmy.
It bodes well for the future that JO is improving. Still, we went through this same thing last year.
Very curious to see how this all works out over the course of the season between WB, JO, and Silas.
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Post by Tony on Oct 2, 2014 16:21:55 GMT -5
JO is outplaying Silas by a pretty good margin in practice ( so far) It looks like JO has gone by him, WB has a lot of potential and can do some things nobody else on team can do- but like most freshmen big men in the MAAC he makes a lot of mistakes. While I think WB will get time, I would caution people not to expect too much..In the history of the MAAC, only a handful of player over 6'8" came in and were "impact" players-- at the MAAC level it almost always takes big men a year or so to develop ( which puts JO right on schedule)
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Post by indian82 on Oct 2, 2014 19:08:52 GMT -5
Nice- Really rooting for JO. Sounds like a good kid who's been through a lot. And love to see the best local kids stay near home. Keep it up Javion!
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