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Post by tcbaseball on Sept 12, 2014 19:09:51 GMT -5
The Sporting News won't be voting on the team in March, but the coaches will. Depending on where we finish, our best player might make the 1st team. The coaches do tend to reward seniors in these things, but I'm hoping Poole averages around 11-12ppg this year, and more kids step up and give us more scoring balance. Personally I think you are under selling Poole- I expect his avg to stay close within a point or so to last year, he will take less shots, but shoot a much higher pct. Hopefully not too many of the last second heaves he was forced to take last year as shot clock expired. Seniors have a way of stepping up I have to agree with Tony here....
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Post by SaintsFan on Sept 16, 2014 4:57:33 GMT -5
I just think with the way Oliver stepped up last year, and the addition of Cole, and even Paige, at the 2/3 positions will make it real hard for anyone other than Wright to get over 30 min a game. As for a "much higher" shooting %, you think he'll be around 46-47%?? He does that, he might make the 1st team! 46-47%? dont be silly... ..he shot 41% from floor last year and 36% from 3--45 pct from floor and 40% from 3 will be a nice jump and if he's not forcing last seconds shots, attainable. Poole will end up playing close to 30 min a game ( down from 34 last year) you are not giving Robbie credit for the fact he was the #1 defensive target for every team Siena faced last year-- do you think opposing teams game planned around Oliver? Not so much as under selling Poole as it is under selling the development of others. The less Poole is looked at to create for himself/bail out the offense the better he will be. He's an excellent secondary option on the floor... not a guy to create his own shot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 9:17:53 GMT -5
46-47%? dont be silly... ..he shot 41% from floor last year and 36% from 3--45 pct from floor and 40% from 3 will be a nice jump and if he's not forcing last seconds shots, attainable. Poole will end up playing close to 30 min a game ( down from 34 last year) you are not giving Robbie credit for the fact he was the #1 defensive target for every team Siena faced last year-- do you think opposing teams game planned around Oliver? Not so much as under selling Poole as it is under selling the development of others. The less Poole is looked at to create for himself/bail out the offense the better he will be. He's an excellent secondary option on the floor... not a guy to create his own shot. For what it's worth, Poole was 17th in the MAAC in drawing FTs..(not including CBI). He isn't an elite dribble driver but he's certainly solid with how crafty and smooth he is.
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Post by Tony on Sept 16, 2014 15:29:27 GMT -5
Poole is a damn good player- he would start on every team in the MAAC and most A10 teams- dont kid yourself, he was every opponents #1 priority on defense last year- he drew every teams best defender and if the team played zone the entire zone would respond to what side of the floor Robbie was on, he was face guarded several times last year. And why not last year he was one kid on the team that could drop 30 on you any given night. Because of our inexperience last year Robbie was consistently given the ball with 7 to 5 seconds left on the shot clock, and manufacturing a shot under those conditions was not the best part of his game. This year with more offensive threats , and a more experienced team I hope we don’t consistently get down to 5 seconds left on shot clock and if we do we have several “options” this year. Because of those extra options I expect a big year out of Poole this year, teams won’t be able to concentrate on him, and if they do we have several other players that can burn them -- a win win situation if you ask me
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Post by MTS on Sept 16, 2014 20:03:09 GMT -5
Poole is a damn good player- he would start on every team in the MAAC and most A10 teams- dont kid yourself, he was every opponents #1 priority on defense last year- he drew every teams best defender and if the team played zone the entire zone would respond to what side of the floor Robbie was on, he was face guarded several times last year. And why not last year he was one kid on the team that could drop 30 on you any given night. Because of our inexperience last year Robbie was consistently given the ball with 7 to 5 seconds left on the shot clock, and manufacturing a shot under those conditions was not the best part of his game. This year with more offensive threats , and a more experienced team I hope we don’t consistently get down to 5 seconds left on shot clock and if we do we have several “options” this year. Because of those extra options I expect a big year out of Poole this year, teams won’t be able to concentrate on him, and if they do we have several other players that can burn them -- a win win situation if you ask me I agree. He's not on the level of a Kenny Hasbrouck or Edwin Ubiles but Poole is really good. He went toe to toe with Billy Baron last year in that epic 3 OT game we lost. I expect him to have a big year for us. His numbers (FG/3 point FG) should go up because defenses won't just be able to put their entire focus on him. Plus seniors have a way of bringing their games to another level in their final go-a-round. I think Poole will end up on the all-MAAC first team in March.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 20:54:33 GMT -5
They just did some work on the player profiles.
Imoh Silas
"Expected to once again be a key contributor"
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 17, 2014 3:03:51 GMT -5
GENERAL: Athletic big man Big-impact shot blocker Hard-worker who runs the floor well and has improved strength Has shown ability to alter game on both ends of floor Expected to once again be a key contributor
5th starter?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 9:54:55 GMT -5
GENERAL: Athletic big man Big-impact shot blocker Hard-worker who runs the floor well and has improved strength Has shown ability to alter game on both ends of floor Expected to once again be a key contributor 5th starter? I doubt it, but what this tells me is Jimmy knows he needs Silas' rebounding and shotblocking. Guys like JO and Wolfe will likely be the ones whose PT suffers. I think one of them should redshirt. They both have upside that would be much more valuable the year after. You can see the potential, they just need time. JO blocks shots and could turn into a less turnover prone Silas but he's not there yet. He just doesn't rebound enough or block shots at as high a level. Brandwijk is gonna leapfrog them both. He weighs the same as Silas but he's still got at least the ball skills of Wolfe. And he's got a decent defensive motor. Plus, he's got the ups to take on Wolfe's 'oop' role. Bisping, Brandwijk, and Silas looks to me like the optimal frontcourt holy triumvirate...with Long taking most of the other time. Silas is just too elite in this league with regards to rebounding and shotblocking to NOT use him. His rates per min in both categories are Top 5 or better in the MAAC and he will just look like a man among boys in there in this league, this year. He's likely going to get his usual 16 mpg. The backcourt looks a lot murkier to me. Wright, Poole, Long, Cole, Oliver, Hymes...I mean that would be more than enough right there. But then you also have Paige, White, and Gottfried. There is no way to use them all. A guard should redshirt too. We have 16 players. Hell, 4 guys could redshirt and we'd still have 4 more rotation players than in MB2.
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Post by SaintsFan on Sept 17, 2014 10:01:38 GMT -5
I think Silas will be the fifth starter and Patsos will give him those couple minutes (aka Hymes) to see what game it will be tonight... and yank him quickly if its ... one of "those" games.
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Post by mjs72 on Sept 17, 2014 10:01:40 GMT -5
KK: I thought JO played great in the CBI and really showed a lot on D and in rebounding during the CBI against good competition. His progress before this was slowed by the injury. He is no where as explosive as Imoh but he doesn't seem as foul and turnover prone. I think the RS candidate is Wolfe. He is so athletic but really looked lost most of the time last season. I would love to avoid Brett having to play the "5"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 10:14:13 GMT -5
KK: I thought JO played great in the CBI and really showed a lot on D and in rebounding during the CBI against good competition. His progress before this was slowed by the injury. He is no where as explosive as Imoh but he doesn't seem as foul and turnover prone. I think the RS candidate is Wolfe. He is so athletic but really looked lost most of the time last season. I would love to avoid Brett having to play the "5" Imoh does just about everything better than JO except set screens. I mean if you look at his rates, he's elite. -He's got the 2nd leading returning block rate to Malcolm Gilbert. And 3 of last year's top 5 graduated. Granted JO is the 4th leading but the rates are pretty far apart. -He's also got the 4th best returning rebound rate to Drame, Laury, and Sidibe. JO was 44th in rebound rate last year. Not even close. He barely beat out Oliver. Plus, Silas finishes better at the rim. He's only one year removed from a 60% FG%. JO may have improved over the summer, but most likely, so did Silas. Silas could dominate the league this year at doing what he does best, which is just being tough.
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Post by musicman on Sept 17, 2014 14:44:31 GMT -5
KK: I thought JO played great in the CBI and really showed a lot on D and in rebounding during the CBI against good competition. His progress before this was slowed by the injury. He is no where as explosive as Imoh but he doesn't seem as foul and turnover prone. I think the RS candidate is Wolfe. He is so athletic but really looked lost most of the time last season. I would love to avoid Brett having to play the "5" Imoh does just about everything better than JO except set screens. I mean if you look at his rates, he's elite. -He's got the 2nd leading returning block rate to Malcolm Gilbert. And 3 of last year's top 5 graduated. Granted JO is the 4th leading but the rates are pretty far apart. -He's also got the 4th best returning rebound rate to Drame, Laury, and Sidibe. JO was 44th in rebound rate last year. Not even close. He barely beat out Oliver. Plus, Silas finishes better at the rim. He's only one year removed from a 60% FG%. JO may have improved over the summer, but most likely, so did Silas. Silas could dominate the league this year at doing what he does best, which is just being tough. I really hope you're right about Silas! He is such a " Jekyll and Hyde." We have seen glimpses in the past of a player that KK thinks we will have this season but there were many games last year when you had to question whether he was a really bad recruitment mistake. He reminds in a way of OD, a good athlete but not a particularly good basketball player. He has a great rhythm and the hops to be a great blocker but I don't think he's ever going to be a great defender one on one in the paint. (for whatever reason, be it lack of experience, etc. )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 15:08:32 GMT -5
Imoh does just about everything better than JO except set screens. I mean if you look at his rates, he's elite. -He's got the 2nd leading returning block rate to Malcolm Gilbert. And 3 of last year's top 5 graduated. Granted JO is the 4th leading but the rates are pretty far apart. -He's also got the 4th best returning rebound rate to Drame, Laury, and Sidibe. JO was 44th in rebound rate last year. Not even close. He barely beat out Oliver. Plus, Silas finishes better at the rim. He's only one year removed from a 60% FG%. JO may have improved over the summer, but most likely, so did Silas. Silas could dominate the league this year at doing what he does best, which is just being tough. I really hope you're right about Silas! He is such a " Jekyll and Hyde." We have seen glimpses in the past of a player that KK thinks we will have this season but there were many games last year when you had to question whether he was a really bad recruitment mistake. He reminds in a way of OD, a good athlete but not a particularly good basketball player. He has a great rhythm and the hops to be a great blocker but I don't think he's ever going to be a great defender one on one in the paint. (for whatever reason, be it lack of experience, etc. ) People tend focus on his offense. That's not his job. When I say 'dominate the league' ....I mean in those 2 statistical categories. He's not a 1st teamer or anything. He's elite at the things he does well and they are things the team needs and the other players lack. He makes other teams uncomfortable in the paint and comes down with boards. That's his job. If this were the Mighty Ducks movies he'd be the bash brothers. He is one of the main reasons our defense was ranked 78th in the country last year. Saints were ranked 52nd in block %. Imoh Silas' 63 blocks in part time duty were kind of the biggest reason for that. Reduce his minutes too much and the D probably won't be as good. He helps us tire out teams emotionally. There's nothing more frustrating for an offensive player then getting your shot blocked or always worrying it will. Send him in periodically for defensive disruption. You don't want teams to get too comfortable inside. We need Imoh Silas.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Sept 17, 2014 15:23:02 GMT -5
I like Imoh and think that he has the tools to be an impact player for all the reasons discussed, but he must mitigate his fouls and turnovers in order to maximize his efficiency.
If he was one of the reasons we were ranked 78th in D, then he also needs to be credited as one of the reasons Siena was one of the most foul-prone teams in the country.
I think he'll start, but end up getting significantly less than starters' minutes.
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Post by musicman on Sept 17, 2014 15:24:24 GMT -5
You can't deny his blocking ability for sure. I do like the idea of a lot of "big" fresh bodies being platooned into the "5." We have the numbers, let's hope JP can utilize them.
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