Siena Releases Non-Conference Men's Basketball Schedule

[nolesaint]

Aug 21, 2014 22:21:47 GMT -5 gorvy said:

The schedule is fine- it's the Maac schedule that's weak.

For the most part I agree with gorvy because even though the team finished strong they are still young and have limitations. With that being said I would like to see at least a one game change/upgrade from any of the following:

11/17 vs. Vermont, 7pm
11/29 @ Loyola, TBD
12/19 @ Radford, 7pm
12/23 vs. Cornell, 7pm

For someone like:

UB
BU/Northeastern
Richmond
etc...

[OneIndian]

Aug 21, 2014 19:19:06 GMT -5 Papi said:

My point is this schedule is a testing schedule and should get Siena ready for maac play. I will add the home part does suck, almost a month between games, then another week plus for another game. 5-4 or better and 70+ a game will be nice.

To me it doesn't matter what conference a team comes from, its the team that matters.

If we go 5-4 against that comp I'd say it wouldn't be a good sign! IMHO it's a fluff / soft schedule and does shit to prep a team unlike last years tough opening.

[Deleted]

There is not one potential "quality win" on this slate. Not a single top 100 team.

A sweep would be nice and then we can improve our RPI by osmosis and beating MAAC teams who all have tougher schedules.

[SaintMisbehavin]

NON-CON FAN REACTION PREDICTIONS (the bored, ridiculous off-season edition):

9-0

Patsos gets a standing ovation any time he walks into Maestro's. Times Union Center considers building on a third mezzanine to accommodate all the ticket requests.

message board quotes:
 "There are only 5 undefeated teams in the entire country! How are we not in the Top 25?!"

"SF Austin dominated a weak schedule last year, and their season turned out pretty well. I’d sign up for that in a heartbeat"

"I really wish they played Wolfe more."

"The MAAC is shaking in their boots"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



8-1

Under Armour starts making Jimmy Patsos custom ties that absorb sweat, so he can wipe off his forehead during games and still look presentable on television. The campaign to have 6 players on Siena make the all-MAAC team begins.

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend away from being 9-0!"

"That Radford team is going to win their conference and make that loss not so bad anyway"

"The MAAC is probably shaking in their boots!"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



7-2

Debate about capping off seating/attendance at the TUC reaches fever pitch. Student section starts to learn how to pronounce "Brandwijk".

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend and one missed Evan Hymes dunk away from being 9-0!"

"This team is right where we want them to be."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



6-3

Stats about how the last time we had a winning non-con record we made the NCAA's start to surface. Fans chanting "MVP" when Robbie Poole is taking free throws.

message board quotes: "Relax everyone, we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, and a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call away from being 9-0."

"These games are great learning moments for the team, they're young and it's good to see the Freshman get so many minutes"

"It all comes down to three days in March"





5-4

Lavon Long and Marquis Wright both averaging double-doubles in wins, both foul out in every loss. Fans start questioning Jimmy's substitution pattern.

message board quotes: "Look at the KenPom ranks for the teams that have beat us, these won't be that bad of losses come March" (admittedly this will probably be me).

"Jimmy needs to play Wolfe more."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



4-5

Brett Bisping averaging 20/10 (20 rebounds/10 charges drawn), Jimmy shows Cameron Gottfried how to sub in with enthusiasm, Ryan Oliver laughs and says "Welcome to the show, kid."

message board quotes: "I can't figure this team out. Beat UMASS and St. Bonaventure, lose to Cornell and Loyola?! Jimmy's got to do something about this."

"It could be worse guys, I mean we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call, a lane violation on a JO Free throw, and a 20 point drubbing away from being 9-0."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



3-6

Siena can't win a road game. Patrick Cole wondering why he still isn't starting.

message board quotes: "Not winning "up" recruiting battles is starting to come back and bite us"

"Wasn't this supposed to be an easy non-conference schedule?

"It all comes down to three days in March"



2-7

Siena considers blacking out televised home games for the safety of viewers' eyes. Maurice White lone bright spot of struggling team.

message board quotes: "Jimmy's shtick is starting to grow old"

"It could be worse, at least we crushed UAlbany"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



1-8

Donors ask for their money back for the ARC renovation donation.

message board quotes: “Why isn’t Wolfe starting?”

"Anyone want to buy my all-session MAAC Tournament passes?"



0-9

message board quotes: *crickets*

"Will Jimmy still be here when it all comes down to three days in March?"


Happy Friday, everyone.

[IndianSaint]

As I believe I understood Tony awhile back, I don't think this yr's schedule is all that bad considering how young we are. I also agree with Tony that Jimmy can't continue to schedule as many weak games the next 2 yrs. At some point we'll need to test this team as they gain experience/upperclassmen.

[hoopjunkie]

Aug 22, 2014 8:38:01 GMT -5 SaintMisbehavin said:

NON-CON FAN REACTION PREDICTIONS (the bored, ridiculous off-season edition):

9-0

Patsos gets a standing ovation any time he walks into Maestro's. Times Union Center considers building on a third mezzanine to accommodate all the ticket requests.

message board quotes:
 "There are only 5 undefeated teams in the entire country! How are we not in the Top 25?!"

"SF Austin dominated a weak schedule last year, and their season turned out pretty well. I’d sign up for that in a heartbeat"

"I really wish they played Wolfe more."

"The MAAC is shaking in their boots"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



8-1

Under Armour starts making Jimmy Patsos custom ties that absorb sweat, so he can wipe off his forehead during games and still look presentable on television. The campaign to have 6 players on Siena make the all-MAAC team begins.

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend away from being 9-0!"

"That Radford team is going to win their conference and make that loss not so bad anyway"

"The MAAC is probably shaking in their boots!"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



7-2

Debate about capping off seating/attendance at the TUC reaches fever pitch. Student section starts to learn how to pronounce "Brandwijk".

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend and one missed Evan Hymes dunk away from being 9-0!"

"This team is right where we want them to be."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



6-3

Stats about how the last time we had a winning non-con record we made the NCAA's start to surface. Fans chanting "MVP" when Robbie Poole is taking free throws.

message board quotes: "Relax everyone, we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, and a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call away from being 9-0."

"These games are great learning moments for the team, they're young and it's good to see the Freshman get so many minutes"

"It all comes down to three days in March"





5-4

Lavon Long and Marquis Wright both averaging double-doubles in wins, both foul out in every loss. Fans start questioning Jimmy's substitution pattern.

message board quotes: "Look at the KenPom ranks for the teams that have beat us, these won't be that bad of losses come March" (admittedly this will probably be me).

"Jimmy needs to play Wolfe more."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



4-5

Brett Bisping averaging 20/10 (20 rebounds/10 charges drawn), Jimmy shows Cameron Gottfried how to sub in with enthusiasm, Ryan Oliver laughs and says "Welcome to the show, kid."

message board quotes: "I can't figure this team out. Beat UMASS and St. Bonaventure, lose to Cornell and Loyola?! Jimmy's got to do something about this."

"It could be worse guys, I mean we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call, a lane violation on a JO Free throw, and a 20 point drubbing away from being 9-0."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



3-6

Siena can't win a road game. Patrick Cole wondering why he still isn't starting.

message board quotes: "Not winning "up" recruiting battles is starting to come back and bite us"

"Wasn't this supposed to be an easy non-conference schedule?

"It all comes down to three days in March"



2-7

Siena considers blacking out televised home games for the safety of viewers' eyes. Maurice White lone bright spot of struggling team.

message board quotes: "Jimmy's shtick is starting to grow old"

"It could be worse, at least we crushed UAlbany"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



1-8

Donors ask for their money back for the ARC renovation donation.

message board quotes: “Why isn’t Wolfe starting?”

"Anyone want to buy my all-session MAAC Tournament passes?"



0-9

message board quotes: *crickets*

"Will Jimmy still be here when it all comes down to three days in March?"


Happy Friday, everyone.

The 0-9 result would almost bring a "We want Mitch!" chants throughout the TUC!!

[Deleted]

Aug 22, 2014 8:38:01 GMT -5 SaintMisbehavin said:

NON-CON FAN REACTION PREDICTIONS (the bored, ridiculous off-season edition):

9-0

Patsos gets a standing ovation any time he walks into Maestro's. Times Union Center considers building on a third mezzanine to accommodate all the ticket requests.

message board quotes:
 "There are only 5 undefeated teams in the entire country! How are we not in the Top 25?!"

"SF Austin dominated a weak schedule last year, and their season turned out pretty well. I’d sign up for that in a heartbeat"

"I really wish they played Wolfe more."

"The MAAC is shaking in their boots"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



8-1

Under Armour starts making Jimmy Patsos custom ties that absorb sweat, so he can wipe off his forehead during games and still look presentable on television. The campaign to have 6 players on Siena make the all-MAAC team begins.

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend away from being 9-0!"

"That Radford team is going to win their conference and make that loss not so bad anyway"

"The MAAC is probably shaking in their boots!"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



7-2

Debate about capping off seating/attendance at the TUC reaches fever pitch. Student section starts to learn how to pronounce "Brandwijk".

message board quotes: "To think, we were one Imoh Silas goal-tend and one missed Evan Hymes dunk away from being 9-0!"

"This team is right where we want them to be."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



6-3

Stats about how the last time we had a winning non-con record we made the NCAA's start to surface. Fans chanting "MVP" when Robbie Poole is taking free throws.

message board quotes: "Relax everyone, we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, and a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call away from being 9-0."

"These games are great learning moments for the team, they're young and it's good to see the Freshman get so many minutes"

"It all comes down to three days in March"





5-4

Lavon Long and Marquis Wright both averaging double-doubles in wins, both foul out in every loss. Fans start questioning Jimmy's substitution pattern.

message board quotes: "Look at the KenPom ranks for the teams that have beat us, these won't be that bad of losses come March" (admittedly this will probably be me).

"Jimmy needs to play Wolfe more."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



4-5

Brett Bisping averaging 20/10 (20 rebounds/10 charges drawn), Jimmy shows Cameron Gottfried how to sub in with enthusiasm, Ryan Oliver laughs and says "Welcome to the show, kid."

message board quotes: "I can't figure this team out. Beat UMASS and St. Bonaventure, lose to Cornell and Loyola?! Jimmy's got to do something about this."

"It could be worse guys, I mean we're only one Imoh Silas goal-tend, a missed Evan Hymes dunk, a questionable Jimmy Paige block/charge call, a lane violation on a JO Free throw, and a 20 point drubbing away from being 9-0."

"It all comes down to three days in March"



3-6

Siena can't win a road game. Patrick Cole wondering why he still isn't starting.

message board quotes: "Not winning "up" recruiting battles is starting to come back and bite us"

"Wasn't this supposed to be an easy non-conference schedule?

"It all comes down to three days in March"



2-7

Siena considers blacking out televised home games for the safety of viewers' eyes. Maurice White lone bright spot of struggling team.

message board quotes: "Jimmy's shtick is starting to grow old"

"It could be worse, at least we crushed UAlbany"

"It all comes down to three days in March"



1-8

Donors ask for their money back for the ARC renovation donation.

message board quotes: “Why isn’t Wolfe starting?”

"Anyone want to buy my all-session MAAC Tournament passes?"



0-9

message board quotes: *crickets*

"Will Jimmy still be here when it all comes down to three days in March?"


Happy Friday, everyone.

[MTS]

Aug 22, 2014 8:36:59 GMT -5 @saintkk said:

There is not one potential "quality win" on this slate. Not a single top 100 team.

A sweep would be nice and then we can improve our RPI by osmosis and beating MAAC teams who all have tougher schedules.

UMass will be a top 100 team. They lose Chazz Williams but add a big time transfer from West Virginia (Jabari Hinds). Most publications have UMass as a top 4 A10 team that would be a quality win. Radford should win a lot of games in a weak Big South conference. Vermont and UA won't be as good but the AE stinks so you know they'll win enough to have a decent RPI. Cornell and Loyola could be big time RPI killers though.

One thing that seems odd is how the games are set up. We play on 11/14, 11/17 and 11/19 - three games in six days. Then the next game isn't until 11/29 (a 10 day break). Play in Baltimore on a Saturday and in the Bronx on Monday night another quick turnaround. I guess that's how the dates fell when the games were scheduled and contracts signed.

[Deleted]

Aug 22, 2014 14:42:08 GMT -5 MTS said:

Aug 22, 2014 8:36:59 GMT -5 @saintkk said:

There is not one potential "quality win" on this slate. Not a single top 100 team.

A sweep would be nice and then we can improve our RPI by osmosis and beating MAAC teams who all have tougher schedules.

UMass will be a top 100 team. They lose Chazz Williams but add a big time transfer from West Virginia (Jabari Hinds). Most publications have UMass as a top 4 A10 team that would be a quality win. Radford should win a lot of games in a weak Big South conference. Vermont and UA won't be as good but the AE stinks so you know they'll win enough to have a decent RPI. Cornell and Loyola could be big time RPI killers though.

One thing that seems odd is how the games are set up. We play on 11/14, 11/17 and 11/19 - three games in six days. Then the next game isn't until 11/29 (a 10 day break). Play in Baltimore on a Saturday and in the Bronx on Monday night another quick turnaround. I guess that's how the dates fell when the games were scheduled and contracts signed.

I've spoken about this at length a few times on the MAAC board.

I know about Jabarie Hinds. I would not call him "big time." Hinds didn't even have a positive assist ratio as a freshman. He shoots poor from the FT line and is a sub 30% three point shooter to this point. He's played almost 1,700 minutes in his career so it's not like this is a small sample. He's gonna have to improve a lot to fill Chaz's shoes.

He's decent but he's certainly not Chaz. I would be pretty surprised if they make the top 7 in the A-10. They were tied for 5th WITH Chaz.

You don't just replace a PG who averages over 6 apg while being your leading scorer and a great defender without some major pains. He led them in Points, Steals, and Assists. He's had that team on his back for the last three years. He averaged 234 assists per year. They will have to make some major adjustments to things they took for granted while he was there.

On top of that, they lost Carter and Putney. Trey Davis remains as the one guy who made more than 5 threes last year. And he's just a 6 ft tall combo guard.

Gordon can't shoot a lick.

They are built like this year's Manhattan ..only with a good shotblocker. Like the Jaspers they can't make FTs either, the returnees shoot it about a 63% clip. All those guys graduating were also their best FT shooters. They've recruited mostly size and as a result their guard depth is poor and focused more on athleticism than actual skill.

[Tony]

You guys are crying over spilled milk – I’m not happy with the non conf schedule- but as they say “it is what it is”. Most of the schedule was set before Jimmy was here. I’m not happy about Cornell and Loyola- but I know why he scheduled them. Who knew last year Siena would be a “contender” as soon as this year? As long as it’s a one year aberration – I’m fine with it. He has already added Hofstra for 2015/16 and hopefully we get a few more strong teams added to schedule. The main problem with this year’s Schedule — we could win 23-24 -25 games and still have a RPI around 100 or higher—which would be a 15 or 16 seed if you get to NCAA—the schedule is built for wins—not for post season success .. but like I said—who knew we would be a contender as soon as this year – lets see what the non conf looks like going forward

[knicksaint]

You can thank Will Brown for the 10 day gap in November. The Albany game was set for Nov. 22 before the "trip" to Cancun was "scheduled."

[Deleted]

Aug 22, 2014 20:25:23 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

You can thank Will Brown for the 10 day gap in November. The Albany game was set for Nov. 22 before the "trip" to Cancun was "scheduled."

Who saw WB's latest tweet about SUNY Albany's shitty facility? Priceless.

[gorvy]

Aug 22, 2014 20:25:23 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

You can thank Will Brown for the 10 day gap in November. The Albany game was set for Nov. 22 before the "trip" to Cancun was "scheduled."

Siena shouldn't put up with this-- we all knew that trip was a bunch of bull****. Cancel the series and replace it with a road guarantee game. That will give the fans the "name" some of them want and a little money for the school to pay for the stipends. We have 20 games already that are the same every single year. No need for the Ualbany game-- it has run its course.

[Papi]

Aug 22, 2014 23:16:08 GMT -5 gorvy said:

Aug 22, 2014 20:25:23 GMT -5 knicksaint said:

You can thank Will Brown for the 10 day gap in November. The Albany game was set for Nov. 22 before the "trip" to Cancun was "scheduled."

Siena shouldn't put up with this-- we all knew that trip was a bunch of bull****. Cancel the series and replace it with a road guarantee game. That will give the fans the "name" some of them want and a little money for the school to pay for the stipends. We have 20 games already that are the same every single year. No need for the Ualbany game-- it has run its course.

Why get rid of the biggest attended game on the schedule? I think now that UA has won a few it is becoming more of a rivalry type game. If the game was played on 11/22 the next home game would have been 12/23. Not good scheduling either way.

[jamalblack]

This schedule doesn't get your player better. It help Jimmy resume in the long run. If we win all the games.