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Post by MTS on Apr 12, 2014 13:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by Tony on Apr 12, 2014 15:36:35 GMT -5
Not bad picks by Amedio-- fairly close to mine, Jasper's could move up a spot of two..but they have enough question marks to warrant a 5th place pick. Quinny has some potential, as do the peacocks- I like the fact Iona has the cross hairs on them- I do think unless they pick up a few players they wont be as good as some think( mainly delusional Iona fans) but no denying their top 3 are terrific. No telling if Amayo ever plays man will be 23 this season and has played a total of like 3 games in D1. But no matter where Iona finishes we all know the title will go through Siena at the TUC next year
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Post by bigsaintg on Apr 12, 2014 15:53:49 GMT -5
Iona will be scouring the AARP list for transfer candidates
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Post by Sienafan on Apr 12, 2014 19:20:59 GMT -5
You can be sure Iona will reload with some Jucos and transfers. Their roster is far from finalized.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Apr 12, 2014 21:09:40 GMT -5
I'd still put Manhattan above Siena. A low pick for the Jaspers seems to be editorializing more about the merits of Masiello in general than in his ability to develop a team.
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Post by MTS on Apr 12, 2014 21:21:09 GMT -5
I'd still put Manhattan above Siena. A low pick for the Jaspers seems to be editorializing more about the merits of Masiello in general than in his ability to develop a team. Maybe I'm a Siena homer but I don't see it. They lose Beamon, Brown and Alvarado. That's more than half their scoring and their three best players. It's like losing Ubiles, Franklin and Moore. They have good players returning (Richards, Pankey, Andujar) but none of them have been the man or are elite players. Masiello isn't going to be back until probably the start of practice - throw in that distraction too. He has proven he can win with his predecessor's players but who has he brought in? Defending champs get love but I don't see Manhattan being picked higher than third. I think Manhattan is clearly behind Iona, Siena and probably St. Peter's. I see them battling for fourth with Quinnipiac.
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Post by gorvy on Apr 12, 2014 21:25:03 GMT -5
Don't forget Maiselo will be much smarter and honest after he completes his basket weaving classes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 21:26:20 GMT -5
I'd still put Manhattan above Siena. A low pick for the Jaspers seems to be editorializing more about the merits of Masiello in general than in his ability to develop a team. Maybe I'm a Siena homer but I don't see it. They lose Beamon, Brown and Alvarado. That's more than half their point totals and three best players. It's like losing Ubiles, Franklin and Moore. They have good players (Richards, Pankey, Andujar) but none of them have been the man or are elite players. Masiello isn't going to be back until probably the start of practice - throw in that distraction too. Defending champs get love but I don't see Manhattan being picked higher than third. Waterman looks like a bouncier Bisping in film. Usilo is an athletic freak. Manhattan is a legit threat if they can establish scoring leadership. Stores and Wilson steal the ball. They will still be more athletic than Siena.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 21:56:54 GMT -5
Quinny is also going to be a pretty good team again. Drame and Hearst are All-Maac players. Chandler could develop into a solid PG and might be as quick as any guard in the MAAC. couple of other decent bench players returning and a good recruiting class coming in including the PG from Paige's team and a PF from the New England area who is ranked higher than Brandwijk. my point is the MAAC is going to be a battle next year, and the idea that its only a 2 team race between Siena and Iona is premature. Plus recruiting is far from over for some MAAC teams. Siena has to hope the kids continue to develop and be on their game for the MAAC tourney
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 22:08:56 GMT -5
Quinny lost 4 of its last 5 games when just Umar Shannon went down. What are they gonna do without both Shannons AND Azotam? They don't play defense as it is.
They were dependent solely on their dominating rebounding and lost one of their primary rebounders. They were literally last in D1 in perimeter defense.
Some of the recruits look like they can help but they have some work to do and top 5 is far from guaranteed.
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Post by Sienafan on Apr 12, 2014 23:32:09 GMT -5
Quinny is also going to be a pretty good team again. Drame and Hearst are All-Maac players. Chandler could develop into a solid PG and might be as quick as any guard in the MAAC. couple of other decent bench players returning and a good recruiting class coming in including the PG from Paige's team and a PF from the New England area who is ranked higher than Brandwijk. my point is the MAAC is going to be a battle next year, and the idea that its only a 2 team race between Siena and Iona is premature. Plus recruiting is far from over for some MAAC teams. Siena has to hope the kids continue to develop and be on their game for the MAAC tourney Dingba is good and had 25 div. 1 offers, but he's an undersized power forward at 6'5 and he missed all of last season with multiple surgeries. I'll be curious to see if he ends up being a more productive player than Brandwijk. Quinny has been doing some good recruiting. I don't understand why they never got anywhere in the NEC, as they've been landing MAAC level or better players. They'll be in the top 5, but Drame and Hearst need some help right away. As KK pointed out, they ended the season on a downward spiral and their personnel losses are not going to help. That said, I don't think it's going to be a two team race between Siena and Iona. There will be a couple of other teams that are heard from.
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Post by mjs72 on Apr 13, 2014 4:56:45 GMT -5
I think Yankee made a valid point over on the SmackBoard a while back when he said we still lacked a "dominant" player. And there will be teams that are more athletic than us. Expectations can be a heavy burden for a young team to carry.
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Post by Tony on Apr 13, 2014 4:57:48 GMT -5
When writers do these preseason previews – they mainly look at where teams finished and what they lose. Of course the Jaspers lose a lot. In addition to losing their top 3 players they lose massive amounts of scoring( 41 points a game). Anytime you are relying on freshmen to score- you are in big trouble. Also without Brown at back of Jaspers press, they will get burnt much more often. Jaspers won’t stink, but a 4 to 6th finish is pretty much in cards for Manhattan unless a few of their freshmen can really score. For all Siena’s freshmen this year our best scorers were Poole and Bisping..if you get 7 or 8 points a game out of a freshmen, you are doing good. Anyhow if Jaspers get scoring from somewhere—sure they can compete for top of MAAC. Same with Quinny.. But both teams have massive question marks , thus their picks. Teams that return a lot of veterans normally do better. None of you guys are talking about ST Peters and they will be pretty good. As for Siena- we need the players to work hard. But generally speaking a player’s biggest jump is normally between their freshmen and sophomore years, And remember these are just picks- Saints were picked 10th last season – having said that look for just about every publication to pick very similar to Amedio..Siena will be picked 2nd by most, maybe a few pick us first- St peters- Manhattan and Quinny will be picked 3-4-5 by just about everyone. As for Iona- I’m not sold on them where they stand today- I agree they will probably pick up a player or two- unlike Manhattan or Quinny who rebuild with freshmen Iona goes the transfer/Juco route- somehow they look under every rock in America pick up talented kids they have often had problems with school and somehow make it work. If Siena freshmen don’t improve, then Siena will be better than last year ( with Cole and freshmen coming in) but not as good as some of us want or expect.
Anyway – barring some massive changes, the picks you see from Amedio will probably be pretty close to what every rag magazine in country picks them( they might slide a team up or down a slot) being picked high is no guarantee of success- or being picked low is no guarantee a team will stink- just a starting point for next season
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Post by Tony on Apr 13, 2014 5:21:07 GMT -5
I think Yankee made a valid point over on the SmackBoard a while back when he said we still lacked a "dominant" player. And there will be teams that are more athletic than us. Expectations can be a heavy burden for a young team to carry. Good point- but if you are a balanced team you don’t really need a dominant scoring player. Take a team like Dayton who made an NCAA run this year- they had no dominant scorer( their leading scorer avg 12 points a game) I think if you have 5 guys on the floor that can score you are OK—and because of that it hurt playing time for Silas and White this year. We really need Wright to improve his shot, we don’t need him to be a lights out shooter, just good enough that teams have to guard him. As for our athleticism, that is a legitimate concern. I think we need improvement out of JO and White and plus who knows what we get out of Paige and Brandwijk ( both pretty athletic ) that’s 4 pretty athletic guys. Cole is an average athlete. Our strengths this year was our defense and rebounding- both should be improved next year. We need to go from 70ppg to somewhere north of 75ppg .. and stop the massive amount of fouling. If we do, Saints are going to be very very good. That's off the top of my head maybe one of our stat guys ( KK or Go Siena) can list what we did well last year and what we need to improve on
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Post by gorvy on Apr 13, 2014 7:57:47 GMT -5
Again, the good programs with good coaches rise to the top in this league, in general because it is mediocre. That means without looking at the players I would put Siena, Iona and Manhattan somewhere in the top 5. After that whoever is on an upswing will round out your bye teams.
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