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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 23, 2014 21:49:45 GMT -5
As bad as I thought February might be... Siena was just 3 baskets from being 6-1 to this point of the month. Wow.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 23, 2014 22:07:08 GMT -5
Jimmy's winning percentage at Siena is now LESS than the PW! Have no fear Cam is near. Ahead of Mitch now, one more win to catch Lanier lol.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 25, 2014 10:10:32 GMT -5
interesting.... Siena is quietly 6-4 in their last 10 and was damn near 9-1 with two over time losses and the Marist debacle
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Post by billmurray on Feb 25, 2014 11:16:51 GMT -5
interesting.... Siena is quietly 6-4 in their last 10 and was damn near 9-1 with two over time losses and the Marist debacle In my opinion there was no excuse for the Marist loss and it does not fall to the coaches. The two guys who take the ball out all the time and have been instructed as to what to do in that situation numerous times in practice didn't execute the play. It is that simple. These things happen, but you really hate it when they do. You just have to accept it and move on.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 25, 2014 11:32:07 GMT -5
interesting.... Siena is quietly 6-4 in their last 10 and was damn near 9-1 with two over time losses and the Marist debacle In my opinion there was no excuse for the Marist loss and it does not fall to the coaches. The two guys who take the ball out all the time and have been instructed as to what to do in that situation numerous times in practice didn't execute the play. It is that simple. These things happen, but you really hate it when they do. You just have to accept it and move on. Sorry but Wrong. 2 guys that take the ball out? ? Not sure what you mean. There should be a set inbounds plays based on the situation. Nothing was being run..... It was a debacle from the get go ......, both coaching (game mgmt) and players (execution)!
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Post by billmurray on Feb 25, 2014 11:40:19 GMT -5
The guy who received the pass and the guy inbounding are the two guys designated to inbound the ball in that situation. Either one could do it. The inbound pass play is known to all five guys that were on the floor in the situation where there are not time outs remaining. If the "play wasn't run' as you say, it wasn't because the play wasn't "called" it was because the play was not executed. Could you say there should have been a time out remaining sure, but there wasn't and the play has to be made. It wasn't.
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Post by gosaints on Feb 25, 2014 11:48:16 GMT -5
We all know what could have/should have been. Thursday nights game with Quinny will tell us a lot more exactly where we are.
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Post by billmurray on Feb 25, 2014 12:03:29 GMT -5
We all know what could have/should have been. Thursday nights game with Quinny will tell us a lot more exactly where we are. True enough, it would be good to get a W against a top 4 team on the road, but this year Siena is where it is, i.e., likely in a 5th place or a tie for 5th place. But you are right, a win could be a big confidence builder for this team going into Springfield, but winning on the road, especially against a top 4 team is difficult even for other top MAAC teams, so a loss will not change who this team is this year. The team has already shown it has grown and is moving in the right direction. I don't think, barring a complete debacle, a loss will change that.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 25, 2014 12:48:38 GMT -5
I strongly disagree with your assertion that this loss was only on the players but really there was no need to bring it up again. The team is now on an upswing and you are right a loss Thursday won't change that.
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Post by psycholojets on Feb 25, 2014 13:38:07 GMT -5
Young teams sometimes have lapses in execution. Let's hope that some of that stuff has been left behind. A 9-0 run to end the Rider game might be an indication that this team is figuring out how to execute when the game is on the line.
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Post by IndianSaint on Feb 25, 2014 14:14:05 GMT -5
In my opinion there was no excuse for the Marist loss and it does not fall to the coaches. The two guys who take the ball out all the time and have been instructed as to what to do in that situation numerous times in practice didn't execute the play. It is that simple. These things happen, but you really hate it when they do. You just have to accept it and move on. Sorry but Wrong. 2 guys that take the ball out? ? Not sure what you mean. There should be a set inbounds plays based on the situation. Nothing was being run..... It was a debacle from the get go ......, both coaching (game mgmt) and players (execution)! I think the reference to the only two guys was from Jimmy's press conference after the Rider or Manhattan game. Jimmy said only two people take the ball out (Brett or Lavon) then went into each's strength t's & weaknesses. Obviously we've all seen other players take the ball out (Evan, Ryan, Wiolfe, Silas, etc.) si I'm not sure when the two guy thing was implemented or when it's the only option.
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 25, 2014 14:59:50 GMT -5
Q comes in red hot, winning 7 in a row.............and in that stretch they have averaged over 80pts a game.................they are an aggressive/physical rim attacking type of team that gets to the charity stripe alot, not to mention they own the glass with regularity.........will be a very difficult game for us but a good test on the road!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by playerparentcoach on Feb 25, 2014 16:17:15 GMT -5
Sorry but Wrong. 2 guys that take the ball out? ? Not sure what you mean. There should be a set inbounds plays based on the situation. Nothing was being run..... It was a debacle from the get go ......, both coaching (game mgmt) and players (execution)! I think the reference to the only two guys was from Jimmy's press conference after the Rider or Manhattan game. Jimmy said only two people take the ball out (Brett or Lavon) then went into each's strength t's & weaknesses. Obviously we've all seen other players take the ball out (Evan, Ryan, Wiolfe, Silas, etc.) si I'm not sure when the two guy thing was implemented or when it's the only option. The 4 takes the ball out after a made basket is what he meant. The 3 takes it out under our basket. Lavon is usually at the 4 at the end of games. I cant remember if Silas was in on that play vs Marist... but Brett took it out because Patsos wanted Lavon to handle the ball because he had just made the 6 FTs... vs Manhattan Lavon took it out and was instructed to get the ball to Poole who came up big with his late FTs
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Post by a66 on Feb 25, 2014 16:46:05 GMT -5
Thanks ppc, its great to see factual statements made on this board as opposed to a lot of the posts which don't seem to a clue. And congratulations to Lavon of ROW, I believe he will be POY before he is done. l thought the way he has dived to the floor , jumped over fans to try and retrieve the ball and his overall hustle have earned my respect and if at times things don't go as we would hope, well, that is basketball. I am looking forward to Lavon being a Leader of this team as it moves ahead over the next seasons. I don't need to compare him to Franklin, Edwin, Haddix, or any of our previous best. He is himself and years ahead guys on this board will be comparing folks to Lavon. I don't post much, but felt I should here. I've got a bonnet with a yellow ribbon on it and we'll drink 6 friars to their grave.................... an old song you may not know it, but...... check it out for some Siena history.
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