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Post by nolesaint on Jan 26, 2014 11:00:26 GMT -5
I dont agree with that and I dont think Marquis Sullivan, Brett Harvey, Robert Olson J'hared Hall would and I wont get into transfers -Andre Collins Gerald Brown Jamal Barney Shane Walker all good 3 point shooters All of his team historically have not been good 3pt shooting teams. They have had a decent fg% though, averaging about 68ppg and mostly slashers who get to the FT line a lot. Yes, it is possible to name 3pt shooters from each of his teams. Talking about his teams overall and his coaching history. Maybe style of play has some to do with it but again he recruits to that style. Always been good at recruiting slashing athletic wings and forwards and pass first point guards. Right and he was able to put together a strong winning program at LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLoyola. Imaging what he'll do with a couple recruiting cycles at Siena!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 11:12:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately the game is changing with the implantation of the new rules. Seems to me they reward the opposite style of play that JP uses. We'll see but I prefer some guys who can shoot the long ball when necessary. He can't wait for that kid or kids he needs that next season.
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Post by siena12077 on Jan 26, 2014 11:17:54 GMT -5
All of his team historically have not been good 3pt shooting teams. They have had a decent fg% though, averaging about 68ppg and mostly slashers who get to the FT line a lot. Yes, it is possible to name 3pt shooters from each of his teams. Talking about his teams overall and his coaching history. Maybe style of play has some to do with it but again he recruits to that style. Always been good at recruiting slashing athletic wings and forwards and pass first point guards. Right and he was able to put together a strong winning program at LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLoyola. Imaging what he'll do with a couple recruiting cycles at Siena! I too think he will do well here at siena. He's not the perfect coach however and was just looking at his teams weaknesses historically. Trying to be objective even if it means stating what people don't want to hear.
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Post by Tony on Jan 26, 2014 11:26:17 GMT -5
I dont agree with that and I dont think Marquis Sullivan, Brett Harvey, Robert Olson J'hared Hall would and I wont get into transfers -Andre Collins Gerald Brown Jamal Barney Shane Walker all good 3 point shooters All of his team historically have not been good 3pt shooting teams. They have had a decent fg% though, averaging about 68ppg and mostly slashers who get to the FT line a lot. Yes, it is possible to name 3pt shooters from each of his teams. Talking about his teams overall and his coaching history. Maybe style of play has some to do with it but again he recruits to that style. Always been good at recruiting slashing athletic wings and forwards and pass first point guards. I hear you-- but he was limited on who he could sign at lllllllllllloyla .. and even point guard he had Andre Collins who avg 26ppg from PG position... Brett Harvey who was always a scoring point ( although Brett played a lot of 2 guard also..anyway Jimmy should have access to better pool of recruits at Siena- so hopefully he takes advantage of that
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Post by SIENA1971 on Jan 26, 2014 21:24:11 GMT -5
@stevekellernrr: Jimmy Patsos & the Siena Saints got themselves a good 1 in Cape Henry's 6'4 SF Jimmy Paige. Kid can make shots & plays hard. Will be good.
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Post by bigsaintg on Jan 26, 2014 21:35:45 GMT -5
I hearing a rumor of a good transfer too - who knows but just nice to be back in with good kids
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 3, 2014 21:09:15 GMT -5
Paige scored his 1000th career point tonight in a win for Cape Henry
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Post by sienasaint3 on Feb 6, 2014 9:43:48 GMT -5
I hearing a rumor of a good transfer too - who knows but just nice to be back in with good kids Who is rumored?
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 6, 2014 9:54:26 GMT -5
don't know the name
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Post by sienasaint3 on Feb 6, 2014 10:04:24 GMT -5
Mandrew Fliggins? Jafarri Marker?
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Post by th24 on Feb 6, 2014 10:19:40 GMT -5
Maybe Tony or Saintsfan can find out ?!
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 7, 2014 13:10:10 GMT -5
Paige scored a game high 21 in a 66-41 win over Greenbrier Christian
Paige's team is a top 20 Nationally ranked team
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Post by hankla on Feb 9, 2014 18:17:25 GMT -5
Question when in hell before this did Siena get a player from a top 20 high school team? That's top 20 in the USA not Virginia.
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 9, 2014 18:21:44 GMT -5
We have gotten players from equally good prep schools. EDwin from STM was areally good team, Ryan Oliver came from a very good NMH school. Other than that, none other recently come to mind
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Post by knicksaint on Feb 9, 2014 23:22:22 GMT -5
There are a few threads where this post could go, but I guess this is as good as any other.
I think that there is a pretty strong consensus that the four freshmen Jimmy brought in were all good recruits, with Wright being better than good. Most people also seem to think that Patrick Cole will be a high quality addition next year. Now, we have several posters questioning the signing of Jimmy Paige and apparently even more suggesting that Jimmy should not have offered Gottfried, even if he is paying his own way the first year.
So, has Patsos gone from being a good recruiter to a bad one in less than a year? I think not.
With all due respect to all of the experts who post here, none of us has a better sense than the staff of what pieces the team needs. They know better than we what any given recruit brings to the table, and whether those skills are duplicative of what is already here or fill in an area where the current roster leaves something to be desired.
For the record, I would put the two greatest needs as another big man and someone who can shoot and provide quality minutes at the PG position. However, that is based on seeing 14 games and maybe one or two practices. I don't know whether Cole can be the back-up PG next year or not, but since the priority right now seems to be Brandwijk, an athletic big who has 3-point range, I have to believe that the staff has confidence in Cole or perhaps Gottfried on a limited basis. There is also the reality that a back-up PG will not see many minutes in the absence of an injury, unles his skills enable him to contend to be a starter at another position. No real quality recruit will sign on to not starting until his senior year.
Taplin is certainly intriguing, but is clearly not qualified yet. If he is really interested in Siena, he could be here after a prep year, assuming he does not qualify or we do not have a scholarship to give if he does.
Which brings me back to Paige. I first heard about him well before the season started. He was rated as the 7th best player in Virginia before he suffered an injury that limited his play on the AAU circuit last summer. Even so, Rivals still had him as the 12th best player in VA as late August. With all of the knowledge the staff has about the kids they recruited to Loyola, especially after almost a whole season coaching them, I can'tbelieve Patsos would go after this kid if he were simply more of the same. Jimmy knows what will happen if he doesn't win. My sense is that they see Paige as being able to play above the MAAC.
As for Gottfried, Jimmy obviously sees something there, given that he had offered him at Loyola. He appears to be a very good shooter and will not take up a scholarship format least a year, so what is not to like?
Let me add one other thing: Jimmy was not my first choice for the job. I wanted Andrew Toole. Have I liked everything Jimmy has done this year? Absolutely not, but the program is in much better hands than it was a year ago and I believe better days are not that far away.
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