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Post by Tony on Jul 22, 2014 15:22:42 GMT -5
Siena offers 2015 Jonas Stakeliunas 6'8" power forward originally from Lithuania now with jersey shore warriors.. his other offer is from Patriot league and Holy Cross
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Post by Tony on Jul 22, 2014 15:28:16 GMT -5
In other news Kenny Wormley picked up an offer from Norfolk state-- looks like Jimmy really likes under the radar type kids.. most of the kids Jimmy is offering Siena is their best offer
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Post by bigsaintg on Jul 22, 2014 15:29:15 GMT -5
At least Holt seems to have A10 offers
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Post by Tony on Jul 22, 2014 16:22:37 GMT -5
At least Holt seems to have A10 offers Holt has a ton of solid mid major type offers-- half of MAAC- half the CAA the MAC and the A10.. and like I said I have nothing against Sleepers ( Wormely is rated 47th best kid in DMV) and Lamb ( rated 60+)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 16:46:10 GMT -5
In other news Kenny Wormley picked up an offer from Norfolk state-- looks like Jimmy really likes under the radar type kids.. most of the kids Jimmy is offering Siena is their best offer Oh my gosh. SF won't stand for this!
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Post by MTS on Jul 22, 2014 16:56:46 GMT -5
In other news Kenny Wormley picked up an offer from Norfolk state-- looks like Jimmy really likes under the radar type kids.. most of the kids Jimmy is offering Siena is their best offer Oh my gosh. SF won't stand for this! northcarolina.scout.com/a.z?s=78&p=8&c=1&nid=7647507 - Wormley rated 3 stars on scout. Just get really good players. I'd rather get a commitment from a kid that has low-majors offer who is really good then an average player with high level offers. That said coaches (most of them) are the best talent evaluators and know who can play and at what level. I'd like to see us competing with higher level programs but Jimmy is just entering his second year rebuilding the program. As we get better I expect him to attract and sign even higher level players. He has a lot more to work with at Siena then he had at Loyola. The best way to become a mid-major power again is to land a couple of under the radar guys (i.e. Hasbrouck and Moore) and a few higher level players (i.e. Ubiles, Franklin, Rossiter) and fit them together well.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Jul 22, 2014 20:33:58 GMT -5
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Post by Sienafan on Jul 23, 2014 2:33:12 GMT -5
In other news Kenny Wormley picked up an offer from Norfolk state-- looks like Jimmy really likes under the radar type kids.. most of the kids Jimmy is offering Siena is their best offer Aren't we basically recruiting for depth right now? You're not going to get a guy with high offers to come sit behind Wright for 2 years. Gotta be able to offer a lot of playing time to such recruits.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Jul 23, 2014 6:54:01 GMT -5
You wont get a quality player to sit behind Long for 2 years either The pg spot is filled every 2 years in Patsos system. Wright just turned out to be better than expected. I think the same will be said of Wormly. Coaches dont want him to blow up. He is an important target.
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Post by Tony on Jul 23, 2014 7:33:00 GMT -5
You wont get a quality player to sit behind Long for 2 years either The pg spot is filled every 2 years in Patsos system. Wright just turned out to be better than expected. I think the same will be said of Wormly. Coaches dont want him to blow up. He is an important target. That's not true at all-- we will have to agree to disagree on this. At Siena we have been down this road many times... we got Dwayne Archbold ( one of our all time greats to sit behind Marcus Faision for two years) Clarence jackson was only one year behind Ubiles and Hasbrouck, Prosper was 1 or 2 years behind Scott Knapp ..the list goes on and on. If you can play a good coach will find time for you, 1 year behind can be problematic-- 2 years behind is not an issue for a good coach/recruiter..please note I am not saying Jimmy isn't a good coach /recruiter-- only I am not buying you cant recruit top notch kids when starters will be juniors when freshmen arrive
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Post by bigsaintg on Jul 23, 2014 7:50:17 GMT -5
You wont get a quality player to sit behind Long for 2 years either The pg spot is filled every 2 years in Patsos system. Wright just turned out to be better than expected. I think the same will be said of Wormly. Coaches dont want him to blow up. He is an important target. That's not true at all-- we will have to agree to disagree on this. At Siena we have been down this road many times... we got Dwayne Archbold ( one of our all time greats to sit behind Marcus Faision for two years) Clarence jackson was only one year behind Ubiles and Hasbrouck, Prosper was 1 or 2 years behind Scott Knapp ..the list goes on and on. If you can play a good coach will find time for you, 1 year behind can be problematic-- 2 years behind is not an issue for a good coach/recruiter..please note I am not saying Jimmy isn't a good coach /recruiter-- only I am not buying you cant recruit top notch kids when starters will be juniors when freshmen arrive Who says the player we recruit has to sit, let alone behind Long. Maybe Holt or someone else can come right in and start. There are no guarantees that the current players have positions for life. We want to recruit players who think they can come in and start or contribute major minutes right away - that's how we improve and become a better program. Fran soured on kids because they were afraid theu wouldn't play. We had Rossiter and Franklin but OD still signed. We had Ubilis and Franklin and Jackson will signed. If we are recruitin players just to be back ups for two years our program will go backward fast.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jul 23, 2014 9:36:04 GMT -5
No coach recruits kids to be "back-ups." They might recruit a kid that excels in one aspect of the game (shooting?) that a team might lack, but every kid you givea schoalrship to, you hope they can eventually start for your basketball team.
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Post by Sienafan on Jul 23, 2014 10:47:27 GMT -5
You wont get a quality player to sit behind Long for 2 years either The pg spot is filled every 2 years in Patsos system. Wright just turned out to be better than expected. I think the same will be said of Wormly. Coaches dont want him to blow up. He is an important target. That's not true at all-- we will have to agree to disagree on this. At Siena we have been down this road many times... we got Dwayne Archbold ( one of our all time greats to sit behind Marcus Faision for two years) Clarence jackson was only one year behind Ubiles and Hasbrouck, Prosper was 1 or 2 years behind Scott Knapp ..the list goes on and on. If you can play a good coach will find time for you, 1 year behind can be problematic-- 2 years behind is not an issue for a good coach/recruiter..please note I am not saying Jimmy isn't a good coach /recruiter-- only I am not buying you cant recruit top notch kids when starters will be juniors when freshmen arrive What about recruiting behind Wright, which is the specific situation I was talking about? Most of the players you mentioned were versatile enough to be used at more than one position, thus making it easier to find them time. Put PG is a specialist position. If you play that position, it's usually the only position you play. Wright is averaging what...35 minutes per game? Are we to believe that will be cut to 25 next season if they get another top notch PG? Barring injury, I doubt Wright ever plays less than 30 mpg in his career. A highly-recruited player may not expect to start, but a school like Siena has to be able to sell a lot of playing time out of the gate. Even the revered Fran McCaffery never got a big time PG behind Moore. I wouldn't expect a PG with multiple offers higher than Siena to come so easily. A Chris DeLaRosa type is more likely - and I'm okay with that. I think we all need to chill a little bit on the recruiting expectations. We all need to realize that Siena ain't back. Not yet. We are underselling the short-term effects of Mitch's legacy if we drink that Kool-Aid. The next Melsahn Basabe and Edwin Ubiles aren't likely to be walking through the door anytime soon in the program's current state. We are still nobody on the national landscape. The CBI title and surprise 20-18 was a step in the right direction, but it doesn't mean shit to the casual observer. The program has to get back into the position Fran had it at to get back to recruiting on the level many here seem to be expecting. Siena has a few guys on the roster in which the school wasn't his highest offer - JO, Brandwijk, Long, to name a few. But it's unreasonable to expect that to be the case with everyone they pursue. I remind you that the greatest class in MAAC history consisted mostly of players in which Siena was their best offer. At this level, you start with that as your base, and then you build on that with the occasional guy with the fancy offers in each class. I have a feeling someone like Paige has potential to be the next Hasbrouck - someone who's best offer was Siena, but it shouldn't have been by far. Patsos recruited a national championship team guys, have a little faith that he knows what he's doing on the recruiting trail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 11:06:50 GMT -5
I have only seen little bits of this Wormley kid. Saw these stats and some other boxscores which weren't overly impressive. Only 4 games scoring double digits, 60% from the FT line. wiki.allmetsports.com/all-met/players/prince-georges/riverdale-baptist/boys-basketball/672943/He seems big and athletic and initially smacks more of guys like Chris Leppanen or Taaj McCall. Not bad for a backup PG but you may not want to run him out there with your job on the line. Wright was one thing. His peripheral assist/defensive game and his highlights were so impressive so you could accept the shooting issue but this could be another. This is just my initial impression. I'd have to know more about his assist and defense skills and see more video to get a better idea. That's essentially what he'll be paid for. Not feeling the mojo just yet here.
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Post by bigsaintg on Jul 25, 2014 19:00:23 GMT -5
We offered Evan Fishet, has intetest from St Joes and Delaware
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